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On what date did Islam officially become a "race"? [Spirituality & Religion]

I first heard of Islam in 1974 (aged 12) and I was taught then that it was a religion, but I was never taught that it was a race. Why, then, do some people say it is "racist" to not like Islam? LOGICAL ANSWERS ONLY, PLEASE.
Islamophobia [i]is[/i] a type of racism. People question the authenticity in the word because they claim it's avoids the criticism of islam. If you allow your prejudices to affect your treatment of another being such as being insulting or even more harmful then you, my friend are an islamophobe. It's simple. Simply disliking islam doesn't make you an islamophobe, it makes you a human with an opinion.

Yes islam isn't a race but the word racist is the go-to word when implying prejudice. It's important to note how people also usually associate a particular race to a religion. In America people think Arabs, In England people think Asians.
Truth is, yes Muslims are a diverse religious grouping, but we all share basic islamic culture. Racism is deeper than someones skin colour. "Cultural racism" is now being discussed, (feel free to research just in case you think I busted out some random term lol) People are othered and discriminated against not simply because of the colour of their skin but because of their beliefs and practices associated with some “imagined culture.”

So yes, islamophobia can be racist. Cultural racism, therefore, occurs when certain people perceive their beliefs and customs as being culturally superior to the beliefs and customs of other groups of people. It reproduces a concept of hierarchy of cultures meaning, in the context of current affairs, that “our” Western culture is superior to “their” Islamic culture. This way of thinking is an issue because it essentialises diverse classifications like “Westerners” and “Muslims.” It creates a binary of
Western = civilised.
and Islamic = uncivilised.

SoOoOoOo.. no, simply rejecting the teachings of islam or even not liking the religion as you perceive, does not make you an islamophobe or a racist but I do think people should stop trying to justify their clear prejudice when they DO mistreat muslims by simply rejecting the validity of the word islamophobia.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@176964,room101] [i]"I AM my religion so that means that you don't like me".
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That's the sort of crappy statement that causes pointless arguments like this. I have never thought that way and I never will. Now, stop criticising my posts, stop trying to change my mindset and go and bother someone else.
room101 · 51-55, M
[@670089,KebleBollyJocksford] I don't give a shit about your mindset, your pointless obsession with a billion or anything else about you. If you don't want people to disagree with you then:

a) jog on and don't post anything.

b) when you do succumb to the need to post something, don't start with a question. Especially if you don't want to hear any answers.

Finally, what you consider to be a crappy statement IS NO LESS VALID. And you know this. Otherwise, why even post your question in the first place.

Logical answers only........my arse! You wouldn't know logic if it slapped you in the face. As is evidenced by your ridiculous reactions to my replies.

Please feel free to block me. That is what morons like you fall back on after all.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@176964,room101] DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I KNOW. You haven't a freaking clue what I know, you don't know the first or the last thing about me. You are a total troll with no feelings for anybody other than yourself. As far as I can see, you just came here to hopefully change people's mindsets to resemble your own, and anybody who refuses to go along with you is automatically labelled a "moron". You disgust me.
Graylight · 46-50, F
Technically, it's not racist to be prejudiced against people who practice Islam becasue it's a religion, not a race.

However, many are racist against Muslims because they confuse being Muslim with practicing Islam, two things that often overlap but are very different.

It comes down to semantics. Play nice with everyone and you really don't have to worry about stuff like this.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@627992,Graylight] I believe there are various denominations of Islam, just as there are various denominations of Christianity. However, as far as I am concerned a Christian is still a Christian and a Muslim is still a Muslim regardless of denominations within those faiths. It does not change beyond that.
Graylight · 46-50, F
[@670089,KebleBollyJocksford] The snake has begun to eat its own tail, and I can't continue this conversation anymore.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@627992,Graylight] Isn't it funny how people keep saying things like that?
Emosaur · M
Never. Criticizing or even hating on Islam or any religion has nothing to do with racism.
The far left just loves accusing people of being racist, sexist or whatever -ist which honestly makes me feel ashamed of mostly associating with the left side of the political spectrum myself.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@10662,Emosaur] People who feel an urge to punch or even kill anyone that disagrees with them are far right.
Emosaur · M
[@670089,KebleBollyJocksford] Or far left. Have you ever seen an Antifa or SJW demonstration? They wouldn't hesitate to use violence against their opponents, damage other people's cars, throw Molotov cocktails, etc.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@10662,Emosaur] No, I can't say I have.
NorthernRoses · 22-25, F
It's not racist to not like Islam, but the people who don't like Islam generally don't like middle-eastern people, at which point their dislike for Islam is more of a racist issue than a xenophobic one.

At least, that's what I've always assumed. 🤔
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@427579,NorthernRoses] Where does it say in this post (or any of my other posts) that I don't like Middle Eastern people? I have never said that. I didn't even say I don't like Muslims as people, I just said I don't like Islam. What part of that don't people understand?
OggggO · 31-35, M
Because racists have used the pretext of criticizing Islam as a smokescreen to disguise the fact that what they really dislike are Middle Eastern people.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@328832,OggggO] That isn't the case with me. I have nothing against Middle Eastern people as people, Muslims or not. I just don't like the [i]religion[/i] that is Islam. What part of that don't people understand? 🤔
OggggO · 31-35, M
I was answering the final question of the post. I did not say that every individual or even any specific individual who criticizes Islam is racist.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@328832,OggggO] If what they really mean is that they dislike Middle Eastern people, why don't they come out and say just that? OK, they may be racist bigots, but why can't they be [i]honest[/i] racist bigots even if only to prove that they would rather be as brutally in-your-face honest as me than hide behind smokescreens?
Marceline · F
we live in an age where people make a mediocre superhero movie into a racial happening...
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@433936,Marceline] What mediocre superhero movie?
Marceline · F
[@670089,KebleBollyJocksford] black panther
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@433936,Marceline] He wasn't a superhero, he was a kidnapper and a murderer.
MrBrownstone · 41-45, M
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@1149,MrBrownstone] Then why the heck don't they look it up? That's what the dictionary is for, isn't it? How do they ever hope to be as obsessively pedantic as I've been about such things since I was about 7 if they don't check their facts first?
MrBrownstone · 41-45, M
[@670089,KebleBollyJocksford] No law against being ignorant.
KebleBollyJocksford · 56-60, M
[@1149,MrBrownstone] Well, there ought to be.

 
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