Who is right when it comes to religions about spirituality and the spirit world? [Spirituality & Religion]

@SW-User I do too

🙌@schizosaint

@exoid, I didn't say so you did.

@softspokenman if you insist.

@exoid, I don't. Have a good life man.

@SW-User With all due respect, did you read what I wrote. I clearly stated [i]"The common mistake perceived is that Christianity is a book of dos and donts. NO. The bible states the dos and donts, yes, but its primary reason for that, and its primary message, is showing how we indeed are [b]unable[/b] to fulfil all this, but like a dog we unashamedly, & like a slave we unwillingly, walk back to sinful living. Hence the reason for Christ"[/i]

Teaching people to be good is like teaching a dog to bark - it is pointless, since a dog knows naturally already how to bark. So also, humans know naturally also (how) to do good, but yet choose the execution of evil (primarily selfish ambition).
Infact, in saying that one has to be taught to do good, you confess confess already that we indeed are inherently inclined to mostly perform what is wrong, in line with our selfish desires. Therefore, we need a reformation. Not of the mind, but of the heart - for it is the well spring of all things.
Philosophy/education/psychology pays attention not to the heart but to the mind, but Jesus Christ died that He might give us [i]"a new heart and put a new spirit in"[/i] us.

As the glory of the sun is not dependent on the sight of man, so also God will remain God - holy, perfect, and loving - even if rejected by man - imperfect, depraved, and condemned - (even though He [b]graciously[/b] makes available for him purification and salvation.)

I beg of you. Thirst to know Christ. If He were not real and had not done a great deal in my life, I would not be here striving hard in trying to convince you.
Please. Earnestly seek Christ now whilst you yet can. There is no repentance in the grave.
Thank you

@Lincoln98 I did read it. I also feel you didn't read mine. So we're even.

@SW-User
*If God constructs many ways to Him, then is that not a God of confusion? Seeing as this many ways has brought about great havoc in the religion sector of mankind, along the centuries.

*It is indeed imperative we seek the spiritual. If when hungry, we search out food; thirsty, we look for water; then ought we not to even the more craze for the knowledge of our creator, the one who sustains us?

*Although I do not stand in support of every religion, I have to state that the notion that religion is the [b]#1[/b] cause of violence/"the fucked up society of humanity", is absolute and total fallacy. Hitler and Stalin alone have caused more deaths than all of religion combined, and they were non-theists.

*Quite ironical is it not that Buddhism, which you glorify as pacifist, was full of and spread by violence in its early days, only dissolving away from that later on? Tell me, if a religion - obviously all claims to be divine-inspired - is subject to change, how is that god/emissary/fore-runner/leader to be trusted in anyway? A g/e/f/l whose precepts are subject to change is not constant; being not constant, it is unworthy of attention or trust; and being one who changes with the wind - that is, the state of humanity's attention/acceptance - then it is not the supreme being here, but humans/the followers themselves are.

*Christianity, on the other hand, is [b]relationship[/b]and not religion. It is not primarily a set of rules, but a heart which, upon genuine repentance and surrender, was set free and made new; a trait being that it gushes with love for its Lord & saviour, and now only desires to live for Him and die to itself.

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@Lincoln98 because I find faith and belief to be processes, whereby the end goal, is still self-transcendence through material rejection. That would be the ideal I’m referring to. I could go further in depth.. but I’d pm you my reasoning.

@exoid pm then, please. Thank you

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@softspokenman I urge you then, please, read the bible. Read the gospels. Read of Christ.

@SW-User That is religion, my dear - man trying to get to god of his own will/power - and the act in itself is futile. In the quest of that, many various religions have sprouted, and from these violence. It is impossible for the weak & wounded to approach the strong man, rather the stronger one is he who makes the approach. So it is with God and man. Man is depraved - a slave to sin, which drives him away from everything of God - so God must draw him towards Him.
The average person would say, "that is absurd, insulting, and wrong. It is the duty of the lesser to search out and draw near to the greater". And that exactly is what religion preaches - "do this, do that, and you will know and be right with god". In other-words, [b]earn[/b] your salvation - but Christianity testifies that God does the drawing near, directing man to Him.
[i]"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."[/i], and [i]"But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us."[/i], and [i]This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.[/i]

Jesus loves you, my dear; so much even that He laid His life down for you. God does not demand that you work for your own salvation - because nothing done by us can exterminate our sins - but that you accept His salvation made available for you; that is, His [b]free gift of grace[/b].
[b]Romans 10:9[/b] - If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Jesus Christ died to save you. From hell, and also from all these things which burden your heart. He is not the [i]Prince of Peace[/i] and [i]Bread of Life[/i] for nothing.

He loves you. Surrender it all to Him.❤

@Lincoln98 I know all the theogly and I said God is reaching out to us, did I not? How is that religion? Making something complicated does not always make it more comforting,convincing,or convicting.

@SW-User [i]"Making something complicated does not always make it more comforting,convincing,or convicting."[/i] Indeed. But please, do tell, what did I make complicated? The intention was to 'break it down'

@Lincoln98 whola lay off no need to climb the mountains cross the desserts and swim the seven seas to win over one convert......you'll just push him even further away.......it says so in the bible! Share he gospel thats fine but let the lord draw His people to Himself.

@schizosaint Understood. Thank you❤

@RandomUniverse Do know I meant no offence, mate. Take care