I Hate Women Who Abuse Men

Yes or the man doesn't report it for fear of people finding out I know from experience

The research was based on answers to a self assessment questionnaire.. unfortunately this method has been found to be unreliable in many cases.. thngs like men reporting more sexual partners and women reporting less… sometimes we portray what we want to believe we are rather than what we are.. in domestic abuse and in life in general now there is a HUGE backlash against feminism.. it’s become a dirty word.. even my daughter has picked up on it.. and yet factually we just don’t see these women who are all these things we are told they are.. it’s hype, propaganda.. and we do see a lot of this anti-feminist stuff that is generated by who knows being fed to women.. who join the cause… so we need to watch out for that too..

Fact is men and women are not the same.. yes we are, or should be, equal but we aren’t the same.. and fairness is the real point.. sometimes men will need more than women in order not to discriminate against them. And sometimes women will need more in order that they have access to the same chances.. If either side is going to pick and grumble about that we won’t ever get anywhere.. it’s almost like it’s a distraction.

SO to get back to the report you cited.. quote, “• 4.2% of women and 4.2% of men said they had been physically assaulted by a current or former partner in the last year. 4.9% of men and 5.9% of women had experienced physical assault and/or frightening threats. These levels are considerably higher than figures from other BCS measures. • Women were twice as likely as men to have been injured by a partner in the last year, and three times as likely to have suffered frightening threats. They were also more likely to have been assaulted three or more times.” – again bearing in mind this is self reporting.. so we really don’t know if these things were actual abuse or not.. but even here the fact that women were twice as likely to have the abuse result in injury is telling.. We need to bear in mind that domestic abuse is now considered to be not just physical abuse but emotional and coercive..

I wont cite every figure and drone on about each one but figures like…12% of women and 5% of men…23% of women and 15% of men…physical violence higher against women with men reporting abuse re victimisation.. women more likely to be injured… women more likely to say they were upset by the abuse than men..majority of women saying they were frightened compared to minority of men…. ¾ of chronic abuse victims were women… virtually all incidences of violence against women were by men 99% and 95% of violence against men was by women, (as in some was perpetrated by men as I said)…

Point here being.. that even the research you mentioned, doesn’t quite say what you say it does – the figs are used fairly selectively .


Suzie you and i are old school. we were raised to feel that a woman's goal in life is to marry and have kids...it was a different time and place... honestly i dont believe men are ill treated generally and certainly not overall.. men get discriminated against sometimes but it remains the case women face way more of that than men.

@Adaydreambeliever. Researchers are aware of the limitations of various data collection methods. The self-assessment questionaire was designed with that in mind.

Taking a couple of the figures you quote, "4.2% of women and 4.2% of men said they had been physically assaulted by a current or former partner in the last year. 4.9% of men and 5.9% of women had experienced physical assault and/or frightening threats." I'm surprised that the percentage of men who said thay had been physically assaulted is the same as the percentage of women making that claim. It's well established that men are far more reluctant to admit being victims of domesic abuse so I would have expected the figure to be lower. That the figures are equal suggests the level of female on male DV is much higher than vice versa. The "and/or frightening threats" figures are more like what I would expect. Phyical assualt is objectively definite, it doesn't require interpretation. Frightening threats are more subjective. How many men would willingly admit to being frightened by a woman?

The backlash against feminism is due to men being pushed into second place. What started as a movement for equality has become a fight for female supremacy. It's no wonder men (and true equality feminists) are fighting back.

You say men and women are not the same. That's true but women are not the same as each other either. Neither men nor women need more than the other sex. Some people, of both sexes, need special treatment because of charactistics specific that individual. Giving that same treatment to all members of that individual's sex, whether needed or not, and denying it to members of the opposite sex, even when needed, is pointless, unfair and almost certain to create a backlash.

There is much more awareness of discrimination against women and more support for female victims. Just ask the minister for men. Sorry, I forgot, there isn't one, HM Government only appointed a minister for women.

Thank you Suzie I will read that.. busily researching as hard as i can here.. reading Home office briefing paper 2016 and it says... "How big is the problem?
The Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW) estimates of domestic abuse are based
on a relatively broad definition covering male and female victims of partner or family nonphysical
abuse, threats, force, sexual assault or stalking. The latest statistics show that:
• 8.2% of women and 4% of men were estimated to have experienced domestic
abuse in 2014/15, equivalent to an estimated 1.3 million female and 600,000
male victims
• 27.1% of women and 13.2% of men had experienced any domestic abuse since
the age of 16. These figures were equivalent to an estimated 4.5 million female
victims of domestic abuse and 2.2 million male victims between the ages of 16
and 59"

We must be equally careful of the propaganda being biased from the other side.. in fairness your stance is more than a bit in favour of men and you have portayed them as victims quite a bit.. fair enough everyone is entitled to opinions but from everything i have seen it's biased way more in favour of men in terms of opportunity and equality and in terms of domestic violence it is more women who are abused by a long shot.. women as i say cannot hit back as if they do they wouldbe hit even harder.. so they cannot defend themselves as much which is why more abuse occurs.

Important to remember too that abuse against men can also be perpetuated by men.. it doesnt say the abuse is by women.

@Notsure. I've seen it happen. Despite there being witnesses, the police refused point blank to take action, claiming variously that it wasn't a police matter, it was just his word against hers and there weren't any witnesses.

Actually factually that isnt true.. the law is equal on this.. anyone who abused anyone else is equally breaking the law.. domestic violence applies to both men and women.. SOrry but we wouldnt want to present a false or misleading picture would we? In terms of numbers it is overwhelmingly men who abuse women but it IS accepted women can abuse men. Generally speaking men can defend themselves physically just they dont want to hit back.. WOmen tend not to be able to defend themselves physically as they tend to be weaker. But both are wrong..We need to remember when we say things like women get away with it.. that in actual fact, and this IS fact.. MOST men who commit domestic abuse get away with it..police and authorities get very frustrated but very very few get convicted and most victims refuse to prosecute so authorities are powerless to do anything to stop it.. If there are statistically more men prosecuted than women, sorry but this is a small proportion of those who commit domestic violence and it is ONLY because there are more men who abuse women than women who abuse men.. far, far more.

All abuse is wrong. I had a looksee and found varying statistics.. fact is it's hard and most likely recent campaigns and pressure groups have highlighted the plight of men who are abused, yes they were very much ignored for a long time.. I saw several specialist men's charities saying 40% of men are abused compared to 60% of women..Still more women than men and i think the real problem remains that very few victims report it regardless of whether they are men or women.. I looked at the home office site and couldnt see the figures replicated.. there was a report on women who suffer abuse.. I think the original article was in the guardian and had clearly been supplied by a men's rights charity.. which is ok but sometimes these things arent well researched.. and dont actually turn out to be quite the case.. I am mindful of the relatively recent headlines about the Biology GCSE headlines saying that biology students were being asked questions on business.. I dont know if that was ever retracted but when we checked the biology gcse questions they werent how the paper, a fairly respected one, had portayed it.. they hadnt done their research..
I dont think anyone knows the true figures.

@suzie1960 yes I know I have been there and the police look at you as if to say grow some balls pal :-(

Yes I know all about that especially when they are drunk.
My wife lied several times and tried to get me arrested even for smashing up her car and hitting a lamp post.
I was watching TV while she was pixxing it up.
One thing she forgot though.
She is short and I could not get into the drivers seat in that position when the Cops took me up to see the car. They told me to get in and I couldnot.
ha ha
She got a years ban.

True feminists want equality. You're thinking of misandrists.

@Adaydreambeliever. The problem with crime statistics is that they look at recorded crime and actions taken. If a crime isn't reported, it's not recorded so doesn't appear in the stats. Even if it is reported it might not be recorded so, again, it won't appear in the stats. Men are less likely to report being abused by a woman and, those that do, are more likely to be fobbed off by police. Those two things alone could more than explain the difference in the figures.

I try to take an impartial view. The reason my stance might appear to favour men is because I've seen far more incidents of women assaulting men (sometimes causing serious injury) than vice versa.

You say a woman can't hit back as she would be hit even harder. A man can't hit back either because he would be treated as the aggressor by the police - regardless of the facts.

No doubt some DV is male on male, just as some is female on female.

@Adaydreambeliever. Read the Home Office study - HORS191 http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20110218135832/http:/rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs/hors191.pdf It's been quietly filed away because its findings contradict the propaganda.

The average man might be stronger than the average woman but that isn't true in every case. Women are also more likely to use weapons. The simple fact that men are often conditioned to not defend themselves against women means a woman can seriously injure a man with her bare hands. Men also know that, if they try to defend themselves against a woman, they'll definitely be treated as the agressors.

I've being interested in this for years too. Ever since I witnessed a man being beaten unconcious by his wife. The police refused to take any action against her, claiming there were no witnesses.

@Adaydreambeliever. The law is equal but the police refuse to apply it equally. All the independent studies into domestic abuse have found that female on male domestic abuse is at least as common as male on female. Look up the facts for yourself, don't just accept the misandrists' propaganda.

As assault is a criminal offence, the police (at least in the UK) do NOT need the victim's complaint to take action. It is also one of the very few cases where a person can be required to testify against his or her spouse.

Statisically, more men are prosecuted simply because the police have an unwritten policy of not prosecuting women.

The UK Home Office has even published a study that confirms what I've said.

I am afraid Suzie the law is frequently applying laws inequally.. for men and for women. I am truly sorry but I have been interested in these things for years and I have never seen any evidence that men are as abused as women.. it would be illogical as men are stronger.. it happens yes, but not as often as women are abused and that's not really down to failure to report. as most women never report it.. it's just that women and men are different in that generally speaking women are weaker physically and are born or nurtured to be more caring and nurturing so women just dont abuse as much as men.

@Adaydreambeliever. I've only just seen your other post. Most of the DV statisic and "facts" are supplied by womens' rights groups, not the most impartial of sources. They still claim that two women a week are killed in DV incidents. The true figure is about 100 per year, of which about 40 are men.

I'm reminded of a reply either on EP or to a newspaper article about child abuse.

A moronic "real man" proudly claimed his sons would never complain of ill treatment because he "brought them up to be men."

It was precisely that attitude that allowed child abuse, especially of boys, to go undetected for so long.

All abuse is wrong.. but factually a woman is rarely able to hit back as hard as a man can.. so a woman is less able to defend herself.. a man can hit back and generally is more able to leave.. Men who are abused often dont hit back. but the fact is they can do so whereas a woman cannot..

Just to make it clear tho. ALL domestic abuse, indeed any abuse is wrong.. man, woman, and even more so child. However there is less than zero evidence that feminists commit more violence full stop, let alone that they commit more violence against men.

@notsure. Then, if you do defend yourself, they arrest you for attacking her.

Men and women are meant to be treated equally under the law. That's what we true feminists have been fighting for. Pity the police don't understand that.

When the Police took me to the car I was not allowed to touch it. Just told to get in.
They knew straight away it was not me!

@theSoutherner. I'm surprised they didn't just move the seat back so you could get in, then arrest you.