Women arguing against the decision by FINA to disallow transgender women from competing at the olympic games as 'women' because it's 'unscientific'

@NerdyPotato why are you bringing medical issues into the conversation when in reality what we are talking about is a perfect example of male entitlement?

@SW-User because medical issues are part of reality. 🤷 You are correct this split is about male entitlement though. Many sports started out as a mixed competition, but when women became too good and the men's egos where crushed, women were given their own league.

@SW-User exactly. DNA should dictate what team you're on

@NerdyPotato All valid questions of course. The clause for the separation of transgender athletes competing in the women category allows anyone who transitioned before puberty. Chromosomal abnormalities and hormonal imbalance account for a percentage of the population and should therefore warrant an 'others' category in the olympic games. It all comes down to genetic advantag. Look at that Lia Thomas who won the NCAA title for example. Or the NZ weightlifter and olympic gold medalist Laurel Hubbard.

@DrScissorhands it's good that teens are excluded from this. But if a woman transitions to a man later in life, he has to compete in the women's competition, right? Because being born a female, he doesn't have any genetic advantage according to this logic.

@NerdyPotato As I said earlier. There should be an other's category once you have transitioned as is the intended ruling by FINA on consultation with other sports and medical experts. It's never that simple

@DrScissorhands I'm all for a rough classification based on factors that matter for the sport in question, which may be influenced by DNA and HRT. I just don't think those are ultimately determining factors in themselves.

And I'm saying rough classification, because sports would be boring if all participants were about equal in all respects. Some contestants being better than others due to a genetic advantage or training style is kind of the point of sports and it would ruin the joy of participating and watching to eliminate that. We don't put Ethiopian marathon runners or basket players over 6.5 feet in a separate league either, despite them having an obvious advantage over others. Creating leagues where everyone is equally likely to win is no sport but a lottery and we have different systems/broadcasts for those.

Maybe I'm too open minded though. 🤷

@NerdyPotato 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

That's not why women's sports exist. The FIFA rulling is based on the fact that an average male teen would be competitive in the women's elite league.

The top female athletes ie worlds best rank about 400th across many many sports

Even a group of high school boys have trashed the top female soccer team

Biologically we are different sexes. That has a physical reality

@NerdyPotato to address your XXY example. That is a genetic condition where something has gone wrong in early cellular development. Luckily the extra X is largely genetically obsolete and the boy grows up perfectly normally as a male.