Understanding understanding

Upon the grey areas of inquiry and debate, there is i believe misconception that is a root of many a grievance, it is like a jumping to a conclusion, we seize upon the belief we understand thinking it's a cut and dry matter. Rather i suggest that one understands something of this kind by continually understanding, which has the opposing points in fruitful interplay with each other.

I express these things very poorly, but i work with raw materials, i don't pointedly go after what could give the maximum enlightenment to any topic etc, but with the mysterious instinct, with minimum effort choose sources which can bounce from and onto the previous and forthcoming sources.

This is a night where i section off my awareness of whatever else is going on here, it's just me and my kindle and expressing myself.

One of our members sometimes comments, and i deeply appreciate that, let it be known however that i have no clue as to how to engage with anyone, in the past i would and perhaps i lost the knack of it, or never really had it, online interaction was the only kind of interaction possible for me, but i exclude myself from it from going anywhere beyond the realm of civility.

One's own being is a microcosm of what's going on in the world, i feel it's my duty and pleasure to be conversant with the best minds from all ages on a selection of terrains, which i hope will naturally spread out to other terrain which will be then seen as being a part of the previous terrain, but i have to do the work of understanding this, it won't do to just be told that it's all one majestic tapestry, i have to see how, and for that i need to understand what is closest to me, which i have deemed the core.

If it all works out, i should say things in the future that if i were to read them now would be like someone else saying them.

There is not enough time however, my curriculum will end prematurely, unless there's a continuance in an afterlife, a wish fulfillment conjecture, which exposes where my heart resides, in the material, i would more than be willing to spend eternity with my kindle, working it all out by myself and the luminaries in this piece of tech.

Reading between the lines if i were to found a cult, it would necessitate all members having their own kindles.

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thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

These are long words for another said, listening. This is not criticism, but the words that find an emotional connection will give you more than a treatise trying to understand why. And reading between the lines sometimes means quieting your mind.

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@thewindupbirdchronicles Thank you, it's good to be able to rest, and not always be in effort mode, and still be thinking of the same things, pure enjoyment mode it could be called. :)

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User I'm not in the best position right now, but I think I understood your post, and each time I come to this I am met with this I know I am looking for an emotional connection and not a theory abound by ideas of connection. I'd rather be silent and feel theirs.

SW-User

@thewindupbirdchronicles I hope you can feel those connections, for me i kind of write that whole thing off, and just see the realm of growth as being done in solitude with the timely works (theories) ... then to use those as building material for a final product, which because there'd never be enough time, is seen as an end in itself, for nothing conceivable can be done afterwards.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User Yet solitude, never means not seeing how another feels, even if we can only reconcile ourselves alone. As if that were that the case, there is going to be 8+ billion people you are forever going to be a stranger from. Many of them searching for the same meanings and emotions, and I understand in another way, we almost all ask for the same thing and it's so far away for most

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@thewindupbirdchronicles Then in that sense posting my thoughts with minimal dialogue would be how i serve some kind of purpose beyond a purely selfish kind.

It's riddled with inconsistencies and contradictions my way is, i think out loud as i'm working through it, sounding at times as if i know what i'm saying. Thanks for our little dialogue, my apologies for my shortcomings.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User Maybe I should frame in example, I never try this way, most of us have family we love. You can see people treat people differently than they would another family member. They let those of their family off the hook (held beautiful and caring), but if we held that same meaning to others we don't know as well, as almost everyone immediately understands if you say but they are family, if we gave that kind of love beyond our family where would we be?z

yet each time will be noted, how beautiful they cared for family. (I also understand why)

One could say the idea of family, segregates.

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@thewindupbirdchronicles In a better place, if used wisely, taken advantage of if used foolishly i would think.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User Just need you to phrase it differently to understand.

SW-User

@thewindupbirdchronicles I understood you inquiring about what it would be like if strangers were treated like family so i'd think if done wisely we'd be in a better place and alienated and so on if done foolishly, perhaps i did it foolishly in the past, and am determined to fly solo for good, beyond that is the rudimentary elements of communication like this here.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User I agree there will always be parts here that may never be understood, if that's how you mean.

SW-User

@thewindupbirdchronicles Yeah, we, i believe could use more self understanding, let alone understanding others. The more we learn, the less we think we know is another maxim that comes to mind.

You've helped me think more along the lines i wish by your replies which are thoughtful, thanks!!

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User I never really finished my replies, but the maxim (your choice in words), is we are but animals in this world, and we chase around meanings to find meaning, and somewhere we know another just wants to live, love, and find happiness but we set up everything in this world so many can't find.

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@thewindupbirdchronicles To me, the reason for initial difficulties is that there are definitely problems to deal with, a religious person like a Christian would point to sin for example, i would say in more general terms of differences in themselves, to for oneself have these differences play with each other in one's own mind, and see if there can be resolutions between them in the personal realm, and then if there's some headway made to exhibit such a wholeness by how one comports themselves in public, which goes to show how insane i am by publicly thinking out loud.

thewindupbirdchronicles · 46-50, M

@SW-User You're fine. I have an author I love I agree with, 'those who set themselves up as enemies of organized religion forget the real solace religion gives these real people meaning'. He's not taking on religion or the world, itself, he's just reminding the world how people find meaning. I'd say he means more, just give respect for their plight in just being alive, compassion, and empathy and suddenly you have a voice together.