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So help me out, is that true? I thought it was the other guys holding everything up.
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Theyitis · 36-40, M
Well two Democrats are actually voting with Republicans, but otherwise yes, the Democrats are the ones making demands. On the other hand, Republicans have made no attempt to negotiate with the Democrats. If you don’t want your healthcare costs to go through the roof you better hope Democrats don’t cave.
Livingwell · 61-69, M
The big beautiful bill was rammed down people throats without a single discussion with dems. All talks conducted secretly. Not on the floor. Healthcare came up and the speaker killed all attempts at discussion. I'm a Republican directly affected by the subsidy cuts. $1200 more for premiums per month. No discussion allowed. Now, republicans are saying open the gov't and we'll talk. BS! You weren't willing to talk before. WHY SHOULD I TRUST YOU NOW??? Additionally, the medical discussion was framed as giving illegals medical care. BS! It is and always has been illegal to offer medical services to illegals. And the truth is now out as a premium subsidy. I don't trust Johnson/Trump either!
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Prison1203 · 61-69, M
@Livingwell oh you mean like Obama care was ?
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@Prison1203 well not to put too fine a point on it, but yeah... It's not new, it's what they do!
Trav2024 · 51-55, M
No, my friend, the Democrats have nothing to do with keeping the federal government shutdown from ending. It's all on the GOP. Speaker Mike Johnson is also refusing to swear in a duly-elected Democratic Representative because she has indicated that she will be voting in favor of releasing the Epstein Island visitor list. Have you heard THAT one?
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@Trav2024 Sounds like a conspiracy of some sort. Does the FBI know about this?
Trav2024 · 51-55, M
@GerOttman The FBI Director, Kash Patel, wasn't even IN the FBI when he was made the Director - a first. He has no background in criminal investigation practice and is just considered a Trump lackey - what I call one of the Orange Goblin's flying monkeys.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@Trav2024 doesn't really answer the question but thanks for being so informative.
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GerOttman · 70-79, M
@jshm2 what's wrong with the numbers? aren't they facts?
BohoBabe · M
What are you, new here? The Republicans don't follow the law anymore. They could easily just ignore the votes and open the government.
BohoBabe · M
@GerOttman Well if the statement is that Democrats are keeping the government shutdown, then no, Republicans have the ability to open the government at anytime.
GerOttman · 70-79, M
@BohoBabe by doing what the democrats want. That makes sense oddly enough.
BohoBabe · M
@GerOttman It's what they both want.

 
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