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Just be kind, please?

When dealing with this flat Earther you must keep in mind that I do not believe in anything that is not testable, repeatable, or verifiable. Such as the distance to the Sun, or gravity. If you want to bring up any pseudo-science do it with someone else, please.

I will be happy to answer each and every question to the best of my ability, but I’ve only been researching this topic for the past few years. So I do not know all there is to know. All I ask is that you show me respect. If you show me respect by keeping all your snarky remarks to yourself we can and will get along fine.

Flat Earthers in general are very intelligent people. Just because I am most definitely NOT intelligent don’t hold it against us all.
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I will 100% support your theory if you or someone from your group of believers goes to the edge of the Earth and takes a picture of the universe while standing on that edge. I mean, if it’s flat, there has to be an edge, right?

I’m not being a smart ass here. I just don’t know why no one has ever shown proof. I get that you’re about to say the “rounders” should prove it isn’t round; but, technology and science has done its best to prove that with their proof. Now it’s the “flatters” turn to show theirs.
@Pinkstarburst I should include the the picture should show shoes at least 20 feet from the edge looking down into the galaxy. Just to clarify.
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sree251 · 41-45, M
@Pinkstarburst TBlman's response is no good. Let me give you my reply.

The ground you are standing on is not a part of the Earth you are looking at from the window of an airplane or the International Space Station. You can be either up there looking at a round Earth or standing on the ground of a supposedly flat one. You cannot be in both places simultaneously. Therefore, the flat Earth scenario is the practical one to accept for real life purposes.
@sree251 I live on a spherical planet that both revolves around the sun and spins on an axis at an astronomical speed, with only the gravitational pull of the moon keeping me from flying off into space . The ground I stand on is far from flat, which is most evident when I’m mowing the grass with my lawn mower.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Pinkstarburst What you say is what you read in a science book. Your direct experience is the real deal. Your lawn may not be as flat. Even the golf green is not level and flat as I watch the golfers putting their balls that roll this way and that at the PGA tournament now.

Pinky, wise up.
@sree251 Agreeing to disagree. My world is a big blue, green, brown and white marble.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Pinkstarburst No, I won't let you off so easily. I intend to pin you down to the flat Earth we live on.
@sree251 Yeah, good luck with that 🙄
sree251 · 41-45, M
@Pinkstarburst Science is a religion too. Your faith will not be shaken. Propaganda rules the Blue Planet.
@sree251 All hail scientific propaganda!
@sree251 [quote] Science is a religion too. [/quote]


TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 I think you meant to say the blue plane. There is 0 proof that "planets" exist.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman You are right. Visually, everything we see is two-dimensional. The sun and moon are discs in the sky. Reality is pretty simple and easily understood, especially by children, if we cut out the science bs that explains the magic of truth away.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 What are you talking about? We see in three dimensions. Everything that we see in reality has height, width, and depth. True science, ya know the testable, repeatable, and verifiable kind, has confirmed the flat and motionless Earth for thousands of years. I urge you to look into it.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@BritishFailedAesthetic Yes science has become a religion. However, it should not be that way.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@Pinkstarburst Whoever said that there was an edge? Not I.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman There are no dimensions. Reality is conjured by the mind through the senses: sight, touch, smell, hearing, and taste. The mind conjures the illusion of a three-dimensional reality which is a hologram. The difference is that you can't walk through a wall or anything "solid" as detected by the sense of touch and sight. If you are curious enough, talk to someone who is born blind and ask him/her about the perception of space.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 I believe this, however, it does not prove curvature or motion.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman There is no real motion in the sense of moving through space. Our reality operates like an Excel spreadsheet. When you move around, it's similar to scrolling the spreadsheet. You are always stationary at the center of your reality. Everything changes as you scoll from one place to another. If you "get up from your chair and walk to the kitchen", the kitchen is Cell F200 that gets scolled to the center of the computer screen. You are always stationary at the center of your reality.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 That makes really good sense. Does it prove motion, or curvature? If we are actually living stuck to the side of a rapidly spinning ball then... there absolutely [u]must[/u] exist both curvature, and motion. I do not feel any motion, do you? I haven't seen any curvature, have you?
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman You seem to be in a state of denial. It's futile to reject the spinning ball if that is your reality.

The consensus worldview is informed by accepted knowledge, information stored in your hard-drive. You cannot take it all apart piecemeal one piece at a time. A paradigm shift must occur to free you of all conventional knowledge of reality in one fell swoop.

You cannot reject the Planet Earth without rejecting that you are are its inhabitant, the human being. If you are a human being, then the curvature of the spinning ball is a living fact.
TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 I am a human being living on a very STATIONARY PLANE. It is a STATIONARY PLANE because that is what I experience. I have never in my life seen any curvature, nor have I ever felt any motion while I am not moving. Like right now.

Do you feel like you are spinning and orbiting while you read this? I would like an answer to that question. I probably won't get it, but I would like an answer.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman I understand what you are saying. You want to reject the explanations of science based on your personal experience as a human being standing on the ground and walking around your house or even driving in your car for hundreds and even thousands of miles. Moving around at this rate on the ground can only give you the experience of moving on a stationary and rather flat plane. If you accept that you are a human being, then you have to accept the experience of other human beings who had flown off the ground and watch the stationary plane recedes till it becomes a circular disc to those other human beings watching from the moon.

What do you say now?
TBIman · 41-45, M
@sree251 I say thank you for taking the time to type out this message. However, it doesn't [u]PROVE[/u] curvature, or motion. I also say that no person has ever been to the moon. If you want to disprove the flat Earth hypothesis you absolutely [u]NEED[/u] to prove two things. They are... [u]CURVATURE[/u], and [u]MOTION[/u].

If you try to prove curvature or motion you will fail. Then you will see where I am coming from.
sree251 · 41-45, M
@TBIman I thank you also for being earnest at making your point about the nature of reality as you perceive it. I know what you are trying to convey. It is not easy.

Curvature and motion are definitions of science (physics). You can't prove curvature. You either accept the definition of curvature which is the locus of a point as it moves through space or you don't. Does the point move at all?

Movement (i.e. motion) is another definition of science (physics) for change of position of a point (or an object). What is the nature of that positional change? This brings up to the next fundamental definition: space. What is space? Motion is only possible through space.

So, MOTION and CURVATURE are definitions of science for the perceived phenomenon of the movement of things such cars racing around the track at the Indy 500.

What do you say? Science describes experience. You either accept the description, which we call knowledge, as the truth about reality or you don't. I don't.