@fakable Agreed. Yet the "operation of the whole system" is driven by and for the very wealthy. What benefits the wealthy will be the coarse taken.
Musk has given his own solution. It mostly certainly will not benefit the middle class or the poor. There are other bigger game players that haven't spoken out.
@fakable only natural laws operate that way. Humans will always figure a way around any system. Most specially when greed is involved.
Heck we already have figured how to use natural laws against each other to do what we want to do.
No other creature on earth has been to space on their own with out our help.
No other creature has manipulated their own DNA at will. We have, despite our own laws against it.
Eventually, if we don't obliterate ourselves first, we will figure out a way to use the natural laws to exceed the speed of light, though we are currently no where near doing so now.
freedom is possible for every being only when the will of the being coincides with the will of nature. or god. or the absolute. or the first cause. people have given this many different names.
@fakable [quote]in addition, humanity, in its essence, has no will of its own. [/quote]
We are talking. Without the manipulation of nature we simply couldn't.
[quote]humanity is a tool in the hands of nature.[[/quote]
Yet we create things nature never intended.
[quote]limited freedom is not freedom. [/quote]
Until we manipulate nature to do as we wish
Note this conversation is not natural.
[quote]freedom is possible for every being only when the will of the being coincides with the will of nature [/quote]
This conversation is not the only thing we are doing that nature didn't intend for us to do. I have already listed of things like going out to space.
[quote] . or god. or the absolute. or the first cause. people have given this many different names. [/quote]
No deity really cares how we manipulate nature. Now nature might care (global warming as an example) yet even now we are attempting to change that.
At best nature will warn us... She already has.
At worst she will destroy us... That's a very real possibility.
Yet change us nature can't.
We have to change ourselves. That's free will. Us changing ourselves is freedom. Even DNA manipulation is a free will thing. Nature won't stop us. She can only destroy us.
