Housing should be a human right

@Spoiledbrat Quite unhinged to think the fear and anxiety of becoming homeless is needed to coerce people to work...

@Spoiledbrat Untrue. Again, we have numerous examples that shows when people have help with their needs that aren't conditional, they participate in work more.

@Spoiledbrat Even if some didn't.... so fucking what? Is it really that horrible to not think of humans as a resource to exploited?

Wouldn't then the rich hard, working people be taken an advantage of.@MethDozer Why can't people just get jobs? Is too much to ask.

@Emosaur I'm sure they're happy for many reasons. I have said before that I think rent should be controlled. It's crazy high over here in my parts.

@Emosaur I don't see how people can make it work without 2 incomes and even then ut would still be hard.

@Spoiledbrat That's assuming the jobs are fruitful and gainful which today is becoming harder and harder to find. Most people are working themselvves to the bone to just get by while the rich are raking in all the benefits of technological advancements.


I'm not worried about the rich being taken advantage of because in all of human history that has never happened. Wealth is power, and power is the ultimate stopgap of being taken advantage of. The rich don't get taken advantage of, they by nature have the advantage.

They might now but I meant wouldn't it be reversed if housing was a right. @MethDozer

Some bigger companies and small too really have more integrity than others.@MethDozer

@Spoiledbrat housing as a right doesn't take advantage of the rich.

It would even benefit us all if we chose to make it happen. Even the rich.

@MethDozer It would if they have to pay for it with their hard work.

@Spoiledbrat That's assuming the 1% actually does hard work over just moving money to make more money.


Also you are acting like we are talking about some silly system of assigning poor people to the care of some rich person to pay for. Nobody is.

@Emosaur From what I read about socialism that's a new concept. It used to be thought of as just making everything even. Which is what I think most people are against.

@Emosaur I don't know why you keep comparing the US to Finland. They are a totally different country with different ways of thinking. I can't really comment other than just to say that each country has a systym and the housing is just one component.

@Spoiledbrat What are you talking about?
Making sure there are no homeless people and that no one has too little is not making everything even

I read recently that they are putting up houses in LOs Angeles for the homeless so people do help. @Gloomy

@Spoiledbrat [quote]different ways of thinking.[/quote]

In this case the economic system and propaganda (American Dream) shape the perception don't try to explain social and economic inequality with cultural differences

@Gloomy that's the myth that needs to be broken. That meeting basic needs of each memeber of society explicitly means that their can't be any personal gain through the hardwork, frugality, innovation taken on by an individual.


One doesn't have to cancel out the other.

Basically what I'm saying is that just because it works there doesn't mean it would work here. @Emosaur

@MethDozer That’s right but neither extreme should exist people in dire poverty or ultra wealthy people