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I Am Fascinated By Human Behavior

Since last summer, I’ve been working with a girl who comes from a very conservative culture. She’s 23 years old, very intelligent (she has a degree in pure maths) and very, very attractive.

We’ve become very close, not in any kind of romantic way, she just confides in me and tells me things that she can’t talk about with people other than her female friends and relatives. This is a cultural thing for her, she’s actually told me a number of times that I’m the dad that she wished she had.

Our conversations are varied and often ramble into all kinds of topics, the most recent being about “selfies”. It started with me telling her that my cousin’s wife was obsessed with taking selfies of herself with her husband (my cousin) and their one year old boy. Who I totally adore.

I was showing her the latest crop that they had sent to me. As usual, they were very imaginative, creative, cute and often very funny.

“What do you think of mums doing selfies of themselves? You know, when it’s just them in the picture”, she asked.

“Nothing.” I replied. “I mean, there’s nothing wrong with it. Or are you talking about a particular type of selfie?”

She looked at me with a puzzled expression on her face for a couple of seconds and then, realising what I meant, said;

“No, no, no. Nothing like THAT! I mean selfies like this.”

She then showed a picture on her phone. It was of one of her cousins who looked to be a couple of years older than her. She told me that the girl was married and had a son aged 18 months. She looked as though she was dressed up for a night out. Glamorous dress, immaculate make-up, nothing even remotely inappropriate in any way.

I told her that the woman looked stunning and that there was nothing at all wrong with posting a picture like that on any of the social media sites. She then started flicking through the pictures on her phone showing me more photos of her female friends and family members. All were of a similar vein to the first picture. Until she came to a photo of herself.

“Oh no! You can’t look at that!” she cried, and rushed back to her desk visibly blushing.

I started laughing, “whyever not. You look amazing. You’re only wearing a pair of shorts and a top. There’s nothing bad about that pic.”

She was quiet and, still blushing profusely, got on with her work.

A few minutes later I heard my phone vibrate and there was the photo. She was obviously in the changing cubicle of some clothes shop or another and had taken a pic of herself in an outfit that she seemingly wanted to buy. It was a pair of white denim shorts and a sort of gipsy style crop top.

“Do you really think I look amazing?”
“Of course. It’s a very cute outfit and you look great in it. Did you buy it?”

“Oh no, I could never wear anything like that in public. My parents would go nuts. I just like to go in shops and try stuff like that on sometimes.”

I felt devastated for the girl. Part of me wanted to rant about her culture but another part, my more level headed side, realised that she didn’t need to hear that.

“Listen, all I can say is that you are a stunning girl and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that outfit.”

“Thanks. I know. About the outfit I mean. Not that I’m stunning.”

“You are. So there!”

We both had a little chuckle and that was that.
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room101 · 51-55, M
@TotalMiss In 1803, Denmark and Norway banned slavery. In 1807, Britain banned slavery. Between 1780 and 1804 seven of your states, namely Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, New York and New Jersey (in that order), banned slavery. In 1811, Spain banned slavery.

Not until your country went to war with itself (between 1861 and 1865) did America, [b]as a country[/b], ban slavery.

The rest of your mindless drivel is mindless drivel and does not deserve to be addresed.

You're an idiot!
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room101 · 51-55, M
@TotalMiss The evidence is conclusive and irrefutable..........you're an idiot!
Scribbles · 36-40, F
She sounds like she could use some more positivity about herself and to feel good about herself and the things she likes. Good for you!

Does it bother you when you get young ladies seeing you as a kind of dad\uncle\etc figure?
Scribbles · 36-40, F
I understand hoping to be of some help and being seen as a mentor\role model figure that is approachable and can be asked for help or talked to about whatever...and help. I do that at work. I enjoy knowing I am helping someone.

But if any of them told me they saw me as a kind of mom\aunt\etc figure. I know I would not be entirely thrilled... I've been affectionately referred to being like the mom someone wanted or older sister plenty of times...and sometimes I'm cool with it...but...idk.

I don't like being just anybodies' momma. And refused to be mothering at all. Just do it yourself.
Can't I just be me?
I have enough to do
At least that was my viewpoint then...especially if it was people in my own peer group struggling and looking at me. I'd have rather been friend then "mom" person(same aged person too) you seek advice from

I think I feel better about it now in my old twenties rather then when I was say...21. Or maybe I just didn't feel comfortable being looked up to and having to deal with the good and annoying bits of it. Especially if I thought they were just a spoiled brat rather then someone who really did need help.

If it's from a younger woman I don't think it bothers me much.....But if it was some adult of the opposite sex saying that. If it was a kid under eighteen, I'd be cool with it... even he still saw me that way into his twenties? But some random adult man seeing me as a mom figure to them? That would feel very strange to me. Idk?

Maybe I'd feel even more different about it when I have kids myself or when I'm in my forties?
room101 · 51-55, M
@Scribbles: there's approx. a twenty year age difference between us so the things that you've mentioned don't bother me very much. If at all. Maybe it's just an age thing idk.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
Maybe you're right that it's just an age thing.
Peterhorn · 61-69, M
However it must help her that she couid confide in a way in you
room101 · 51-55, M
@Peterhorn Thank you. I hope that I was of some help to her. That was a number of years ago and we've since lost contact.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
Nice story, it's nice to read something like that; a clip of 10 minutes of somebody's life, no morale, no victory, no defeat, just somebody else's life.
room101 · 51-55, M
thank you. much appreciated
sarabee1995 · 26-30, F
You handled it just right Roomie. Nice job. I'm sure she doesn't get a lot of positive reinforcement of this kind at home.
room101 · 51-55, M
thank you. i do have my moments ;)
Peterhorn · 61-69, M
Knowing she coukd be admired without it being a sin or degrading
Peterhorn · 61-69, M
A lovely story. Quite sad for her tjough
amethyst1 · 36-40, F
Ok. I do think she genuinely sees you as a friend though. And it's probably good you didn't rant about her culture. Sometimes we don't like it or everything our parents but we might not want someone actually ranting about it
room101 · 51-55, M
we've spoken at great length about her culture so she knows my views. but yeah, ranting wouldn't have been a good move
berangere · 80-89, F
She seems sweet and quite humble.
room101 · 51-55, M
@berangere: i don't dispute that. and neither does she.

i've met quite a few of the women in her family and her overall social circle.

all of the "older" women are very strong minded and outspoken. i have no doubt that any man would have his ass handed to him on a plate if he tried to somehow control them. but, the younger women still have this demeanor about them that is hard to pinpoint and define.

all i can tell you is that it's these same young women who fight shoulder to shoulder with their male counterparts against ISIS.
berangere · 80-89, F
@room101: She is from Israel or am I wrong? Women are far freer in Israel.
room101 · 51-55, M
no, she's Kurdish. Kurdistan no longer exists but it used to sit between Turkey, Syria, Iraq and Iran. it was overrun by the Ottoman and Safavid (from Persia) empires some 500 years ago
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room101 · 51-55, M
i've got no idea why you've posted this
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room101 · 51-55, M
@tupolevtu144: yes but surely that sharing must be relevant. i don't see anything relevant in your comment or in the clip you've provided
SW-User
I expected a different ending lol
Btw you're a good person, keep it up!
room101 · 51-55, M
@SW-User Thank you. That's very kind of you.

 
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