Do you think narcissists pretend or really believe they are empaths and kind and caring?

@cherokeepatti Sounds like my own mother, her empath/sympathy/volunteering actions are simply self glorification

@NativePortlander1970 Oh yes. She claims she has spent thousands of hours volunteering. Most of this is gathering up less than a Walmart bag of trash near her apartment. She’ll even take a photo of something like that and post it on Facebook to get attention from the followers. Some have given her clothing and food and other things that she “subtlety” drops hints about needing. She’ll “volunteer” to help someone set up a garage sale and end up getting a car trunk full of items her size or whatever that she cherry-picks and drops hints about needing. And then they’ll pay her for helping them. She turns around and brags about how she is living a simplicity lifestyle and doesn’t ever buy shoes or clothing because others give them to her. When I was helping her nearly every day about 12 years ago she bragged about not needing a car and how much money she saved on car insurance, car tags & registration, fuel and maintenance. Well of course she didn’t need a car, I was getting called at least every other day because she needed to go somewhere. When I was finished helping her after a year and a half and her showing her butt she got a bus pass and caught the bus, it stopped at her apartment complex. It was like pulling teeth for her kids or anyone else to get them to take her to a medical appointment though. She would have to pay them to do it because they didn’t want to get started with her again after the way she did them.

@cherokeepatti My mother's thing was to help clean dead relative's apartments and houses, then help herself to items she wanted.

@NativePortlander1970 Sounds about right. My sister did the same thing except nobody died, aunt was in a nursing home. She drives over the house (rural area) and brings her “friends” which were nursing home aides with her. She started going through things and packing her car up with everything she wanted to keep. And letting the aides take what they wanted (which is illegal for anyone working in a nursing home to do at a patient’s home). And threw a lot of things in the trash. For some reason my other sister decided to drive to the house that afternoon and she caught her in the act. A loud argument ensued and that sister doing it went to the police and claimed she had been abused because my sister called her”crazy” and she filed charges on her. I get called and told what happened and wanting me dragged in the middle. Told the other sister I was letting it go. She thought because she was named as executor of the will she could do this while she was still alive. She got by with it too. That’s the level of selfishness and greed she has in her. She didn’t even want to call and split the stuff or let us talk to the aunt. Then when the case went to court right before the hearing started she gets up and says she is sick and went to the bathroom and puked. Came back and said she was dropping the charges. I think she knew she could have gotten in trouble with the judge hearing about what she did is why.

@cherokeepatti She should have been charged with theft and the aides losing their jibs then prison.

@NativePortlander1970 She would have put herself in a mental hospital and used that as a defense. Most of her problems is her personality and not taking care of herself right. Like drinking copious amounts of caffeine beverages that flush her meds out of her body so they don’t have a chance to work. That sort of thing. She seems to be possessed by self-destruction and destruction to others too, it’s on a demonic scale.

@cherokeepatti She definitely needs to be committed.

@NativePortlander1970 She has gotten worse with her Facebooks rants over the years. This past year since Trump got elected she has been hell-bent with her hatred and posts. She probably spent most of her waking hours posting on FB, writing letters to public figures, sending e-mails to locals at city level, so many e-mails to the newspaper editor that he blocked her. City council and other notable figures have told her she needs mental help. She hasn’t posted anything since August 11. I wondered if she got took to a mental hospital, if she went voluntarily to keep from getting charges on her for slander or the violent things she encouraged or hinted about to Trump and others aligned with him. Or if she might have had a knock on the door and got thoroughly interviewed by a detective. She has never ever gone this long without posting since she’s been on FB. She alienated her children from her with the slander she was posting about them and their father etc. One daughter told her 2 or 3 years ago that she was too toxic to around her grandchildren, and that daughter had been her guardian up until then. I don’t know what she is up to and if I saw her in public while in a store I’d keep on walking. She even posted a lot of lies about me.

@cherokeepatti I wonder how many restraining orders she has against her.

@NativePortlander1970 two that I know of and that was a long time ago

@cherokeepatti Most likely more by now.

@cherokeepatti She's not too smart, is she 🤦🙄

@NativePortlander1970 Ya think????

She thinks she is smarter than everyone else on the planet and smart. Enough to get by with it apparently. 😂