Assisted dying in UK

One of the most ill thought out Bills going through Parliament at the moment.

Let’s us thank God for Archbishop elect Sarah, and previous Prime ministers David Cameron, Gordon Brown and Theresa May.

I stand agasp that George Carey should dare open his mouth, or Charlie Faulkner, or Esther Wilcox.

We don’t need a world where Harold Shipman or Lucy Letby reign.

I fear for people in care homes and the most vulnerable of society.

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peterlee · M

Let me give you a difficult one. Will this apply for a hospice for children. Will their legal guardian make the decision?

At what age will this apply?

bijouxbroussard · F

@peterlee I inquired about age restrictions here:

Yes, individuals must be at least 18 years old to qualify for Death with Dignity laws in states that have such legislation. This age requirement ensures that participants are legally considered adults capable of making their own medical decisions.

HootyTheNightOwl

@peterlee You would know from your research on this topic that it is for adults 18 and over.

So, no, it won't apply to hospices for children, no, their legal guardian won't make the decision.

And this applies from the age of 18.

peterlee · M

@HootyTheNightOwl So someone undergoing a disgusting death below the age of eighteen will be left to suffer.

A person with Alzheimer’s will also suffer.

But a mass murderer in his right mind can terminate their life, and not suffer longer.

bijouxbroussard · F

@peterlee If you don’t approve of assisted suicide for anyone, wouldn’t you be relieved that children are exempt ? And that a guardian cannot okay it ?

peterlee · M

@bijouxbroussard my belief is that more resources should be devoted for palliative care for everyone.

NortiusMaximus · M

@peterlee

my belief is that more resources should be devoted for palliative care for everyone.

Even if they don't want it and would prefer to die? You have no right to dictate how other adults wish to be treated.

peterlee · M

@NortiusMaximus The funding of children’s hospices is lamentable.

NortiusMaximus · M

@peterlee

The funding of children’s hospices is lamentable.

I agree but that is irrelvant to the question of whether a terminally ill adult should be assisted to die with dignity.

peterlee · M

@NortiusMaximus As Lord Tebbet argued when the Bill reared its head before.

It’s the fear of the vultures and society’s attitude to disabled and elderly that is the worry.

Tebbet called those who want an early inheritance to put pressure on their wealthy relatives to be euthanised, vultures. They are certainly around.

Elderly people are seen as a drain on the economic resources of society. Tebbet argued that if the Bill was passed it would lead to involuntary euthanasia. It would lead to , in Tebbets words, the beginning ‘of a slippery slope.’

NortiusMaximus · M

@peterlee There will be heaps of safeguards built in, one of whiich is that the patient only has 6 months left to live so pressuring an elderly relative to be euthanased wouldn't achieve much. We only need look to countries where voluntary euthanasia is legal to see that those opposing the bill are just scaremongering.

peterlee · M

@NortiusMaximus First of all May I thank you for joining in the debate, and I think your points are equally valid as mine.

I think we both agree that hideous long deaths should be avoided.

How do you know how long someone has got to live? Misdiagnoses do occur. New treatments appear. People go into remission.

The NHS puts people under pressure on other issues, for example the late termination of cleft children. Ill founded just to save money in the aftercare.

There is also neglect.

Vultures, as Lord Tebbett described them, are near every care home, and people dying. Relatives out for what they can get.