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Pain and suffering.

There are no easy ways through this. And loads of different perspectives.

The Buddhist position is that it relates to the Three Poisons: Greed, Hatred, Ignorance. How we respond in this life affects the next.
Modern Zen Buddhists also relate to the Three Poisons as being the cause of suffering. It is the now that matters. Being at peace with creation. There is no afterlife of the soul.

Christian perspectives are different again.
The key verse is 2Cor12.7. ‘My grace is sufficient for you. For my power is made perfect in weakness’. We are encouraged to put out total trust in God. He will give us the resources to deal with it. Easier said than done.

The Christian apologist CS Lewis sees this as a fight between goodness and evil, with the efficacy of the cross bound to win, in this end time between the death and resurrection of Our Lord and His Second Coming.

Pain and suffering can rock your faith. Let us look at two examples. Both are from post Resurrection scholars who examine the period before the New Testament was written down.
Pondering on pain and suffering, Bert D Erhman lost his faith. He now devotes his time to humanitarian causes. Elaine Pagels, expert on the Gnostic Gospels, so in favour with The New Age followers today, retained hers. Even though it was rocked to the ground by the death of her daughter. Any parent who has lost a child shares that pain.
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FreddieUK · 70-79, M
Anyone who comes up with a glib answer to these big questions, even if they come from a place of deep rooted faith, has not fully understood the complexities of the human condition. I would be alongside CS Lewis in his view of what ultimate healing is in Jesus Christ. However, to march into someone's life and baldly state that without any context either of their life or where that statement would've come from would be crass and insensitive.

My understanding of eternal life is not that we wait for some airy fairy wonderful life after death, but that it begins now and simply continues in a different form after what we call death. Both my parents had a strong Christian faith and they died in ways which I wouldn't have chosen for them and in a human sense they 'didn't deserve it' after the way they spent their lives serving others, but suffering is not a matter of deserving or not deserving it just is. How we come to frame some kind of meaning for it will very much depend on the way we look at the world and whether we think we're on our own or part of something bigger.

This is a good conversation starter.
AngelaR80 · 41-45, F
I'm watching this with my dad. I stayed over Christmas with him. One of the carers who came in, not his regular one, called him Reverend. The term everyone has all my life referred to my dad. He cut them off saying he was plain Mr now. After they went I asked why.

He just said "I keep asking Why? But no answer is coming back".

He's terminal with Pancreatic cancer and Parkinson's. We went to church Christmas morning and Sunday morning as he's always done but I can see he's lost something vital in him. It's sad to see.
peterlee · M
@AngelaR80 I witnessed my mother, with terminal cancer and he agony she faced, She never lost her faith , but cried out ‘Why’
Miram · 31-35, F
Oh, boy.. I disagree with most of this. But I will only share my presepectives where they are welcomed.
peterlee · M
@Miram Thank you for showing respect and dignity in your response. As I said there are loads of perspectives, and no easy answers.
Miram · 31-35, F
@peterlee What I can say without criticism is that more people should give as much time and space to philosophy, if not more. i.e more posts should address these sorts of topics.

 
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