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My friends and I were discussing the homeless yesterday at our group

The one thing that frustates me the most is the fact that people don't want to do the cheapest thing possible for the homeless because they don't believe the homeless deserve a safe, secure home for free. Housing them is the cheapest answer to the tax payer, hands down.

I don't know what kind of home they think the homeless would get. It's not a McMansion, or even a 1,200 sq ft home with all the luxuries.

I also don't know why it matters to them if the homeless get something for free. They weren't helping them, so why do they care if someone else does?

I came up with a fairly rough idea of a way to help the homeless, using something that has already been done successfully.

Get a plot of land that no one wants. A real clunker of a parcel that's been on the market forever. That way, it's obvious, no one wants it.

Set up tiny homes that can house 1 person. If you have a family, then a small mobile home. Tiny homes range from 450 sq ft to 900 sq ft. You can put a few on a fairly decent sized parcel.

Make a community garden that they can attend to while going through any rehab and/or therapy they need.

They can live for free while attending the rehab/therapy so they can get themselves stable.

Once they are ready to move from that, they are given donated clothes for job interviews. Now that they have a physical address, they can actually get a job.

Once they have a job, they must save a portion of their income and pay a modest rent. The rest is for them to enjoy things with.

Once they save up enough for their own apartment, they can move out and on with their lives. The time and rent spent during this time becomes a reference for them to get an apartment.

Yes, there will be failures. Yes there will be people who "take advantage". That's life. All well. Who cares?

Giving people a chance is more important than worrying about someone getting something for free, someone taking advantage of a situation, or unable to beat their demons. If you spend your time worried about what other people are getting that you aren't really makes you the bad person.
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swirlie · 31-35
One of the problems with creating homes for the homeless is the same problem that arrises when creating food banks for the needy.

When I volunteered at a local Food Bank a few years ago, it wasn't ragged-looking people walking in off the street and asking for a ration of donated food, it was people pulling up to the door in their 2 year old cars, popping the trunk open and loading up because they had 5 kids waiting at HOME and Food Banks were a way of them saving money for their kid's college tuition, which they'd openly admit to us as we filled their cardboard boxes with free food.

That's why I quite volunteering my time at the Food Bank. Fukk that shitte.
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
@swirlie again, people are going to take advantage of things. You can only do so much to stop that. But unless that was everyone coming to the food bank, that's a smal percentage.

I doubt anyone would "pretend" to be homeless to get a shed sized place for free short term and going through therapy and/or rehab to fulfill their obligations.
swirlie · 31-35
@FoxyQueen
You are extremely naive about life and how people act in the real world. You must be a Social Worker, are you?
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
@swirlie I would rather assume the goodness in people than intentional malice. If that makes me naive, I'm good with that. I don't want to go through life assuming everyone is a crappy person. That's depressing and compassion crushing.

I'll stay naive. :)
swirlie · 31-35
@FoxyQueen
Okay, living in a state of perpetual naivety a very safe place to sit in life, but not a very particularly productive place. Whatever works for you, run with it!
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
@swirlie I will! Thanks!

Also, 30 is way to young to be so angrily jaded against people. I'm sorry you are at that place already.
swirlie · 31-35
@FoxyQueen
You're just jealous that at 50+, you've learned less about life than I know at 30.

Naivety is a state of bliss and so is ignorance. Enjoy your eternal state of bliss!
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
@swirlie 🤔 no, I don't think so.

Why are you intent on trying to hurt my feelings? Someone you have never corresponded with but yet, want to make personal attacks on?
swirlie · 31-35
@FoxyQueen
This is not about me Foxy, this is about you and you alone!

I responded to your original post with factual, self-observed information about the homeless and as well as those taking advantage of the homeless while pretending that they themselves were just as needy, but that wasn't good enough for you!

You want everyone to agree with your perception of reality and if they don't, then you'll dog them repeatedly in your feeble attempt to give validity to your story.

The time has come for you to grow up Foxy, because you've been around way too long to be acting like someone who is emotionally bankrupt.
FoxyQueen · 51-55, F
@swirlie I'm sorry you are so angry to hear anything that doesn't fit your disgruntled ideas. I hope you get the healing you need for whatever hurt you this bad that you get so angry at someone who lives their life differently than you and still chooses to see the good in people. I hope you can once more see the good too.

Have better life than you have now. You owe it to yourself.
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