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Can we compare right-wing reaction to the Black Lives Matter movement to left-wing reaction to the current Gaza War?

The Gaza War has simply added fuel to an existing fire of growing anti-Semitism. Anti-Semitism was already on the rise for several years before the Gaza War. “When violent conflicts occur in the Middle East, there are those in the U.S. that exploit these horrifying events to inflame antisemitism." It's as if the reality of Israel's military assault on Gaza has only boosted the anti-Semites' fantasy of the evil Jew.

It's the way racists reacted to BLM in 2020. For right-wingers in the U.S. BLM only fueled the fire of pre-existing racism.

"[Statistical analysis of Twitter posts] reveals differences in how different political groups talk about BLM. Most notably, the murder of George Floyd appears to have solidified a right-wing counter-framing of protests as arising from dangerous 'terrorist' actors."

[i]Compare[/i]: Hamas' murder of 1400 Israelis on October 7 appears to have solidified a left-wing counter-framing of the subsequent Gaza War as arising from the "dangerous genocidal government" of Israel.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9555697/

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Bumbles · 51-55, M
BLM had some problems for moderate Dems like myself I.e., rationalizing looting, defund the police, antisemitism, and actual grift.
@Bumbles And there are Jews who oppose the Gaza war. Parallels.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@flipper1966 I don’t really have a quarrel with someone saying Israel might go easier and work harder for humanitarian aid. The idea of a cease fire however is simply absurd as are allegations of genocide, and blaming Israel for Hamas.
@Bumbles Yes. You don't go to war for the purpose of getting a cease fire. You go to war to win. We let Germany get off with an Armistice in WWI. And that simply led to WW2. 🇺🇸
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles When peace fails direct action is justified and required. It's a cool who thinks violence should be monopolized by the ruling oppression class.
@MethDozer You seem to have missed the point of my question.

Also, Gaza was given its freedom by Israel in 2005. What did Palestinians in Gaza do with that freedom?
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer I don’t see burning down someone’s store as required action. I do appreciate your position in that it states what I think about the left i.e., it was in support of the destruction of private property.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles Private property is theft especially when it is at the expense of the communities it exists in.


The current system and status quo supports and requires disenfranchisment of certain groups and economic demographics. These corporations are the funding for these actions of the people.
@MethDozer Workers of the World Unite!!
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles As for defund the police. Y'all miss the key mark where the money should be redirected from an ineffective and violent militarized police force bent on order, oppression, and harassment. Instead directing some of those funds towards actual effective community betterment, mental health services, and public services that have an actual possibility of reducing criminal motives and despair.

But we in America hate actually helping communities, we love to keep people desperate and then punish them in a for profit prison system.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer @MethDozer I am a believer in private property and stores that were looted and burned were often minority owned. The land is transferred legally, so it’s not theft. These stores were usually sole proprietorships and not corporations.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles Nah, most of them were places like AutoZone or Rite aids. Also whenever their is any kind of unrest or protest, riot. There's the opportunists that come out of the woodwork just for a free TV. Those aren't actually connected to protesting groups and blaming their actions on them is ignorant and misguided.


Private property isn't the same as personal property. I hope you know that.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer It was a highly ineffective slogan to be sure. As for resources, sure, no quarrel there.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles It was a great slogan. Police are extremely over-funded and over-protected in the USA.


Just look at the military boot camp they are fighting to build in a port section of Atlanta against local interests. Just to train police across the country on how to act like soldiers in some perceived war.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer Rite aids are needed too, and their closures are considered problematic. I don't support destroying any of them, but I'm not a leftist. I'm referring to private property -- if it is owned and transferred legally it isn't theft.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer I said ineffective, and if you think it was effective well, okay. The push back would suggest otherwise.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles It is theft. The land and community belongs to people, not capital. Or it should anyway.
Rent seeking, closing off property to the community,. Etc. Is theft.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer We have different definitions of "theft." You can try yours in a court of law, but I don't think you will be successful. There are instances of fraud, or eminent domain being misapplied. That's true. I think you mean more than that, however.
MethDozer · M
@BumblesThe rich tend to win the battles since they own the police and law. The problem isn't it went to far, it's that left hasn't yet gone far enough.

But it's happening.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles Of course not. But the law doesn't exist to serve the people, justice, or what is actual right or truthful. It exists to serve the ownership class and maintain their hierarchy. The system itself is criminal.
@MethDozer You sound like a hard-core Marxist. Property is theft.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer The police are public sector so not owned. As for the wealthy having an advantage in litigation, generally, yes, I agree.
MethDozer · M
@flipper1966 nah,. Marx makes good observations but his solutions fall short.
Bumbles · 51-55, M
@MethDozer I assume you're using "criminal" to not mean legally criminal, just unfair.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles If you think the police and government public sector isn't owned by wealthy special interests your blind or lying to both yourself and I.

From good old boys networks, to donations, to lobby groups,. To those stupid car window stickers cops hand out to their friends to get out of traffic tickets.... It's all owned and in the service of a specific class of people and to maintain their desired status-quo.
MethDozer · M
@Bumbles [quote].assume you're using "criminal" to not mean legally criminal, just unfair. [/quote] unfair, unjust, unwarranted,unacceptable.

Yes