Kimberly Jones : “How Can We Win ?” May 30, 2020

@DeWayfarer “Whataboutism" ?
You surprise me. 🙁

@bijouxbroussard I believe it's an economic problem not a race problem. I see all races having the very same problems.

Go to West Virginia they are having worse problems economically than say southern California.

There is simply no "what if" in that.

Same thing with native Americans in south Dakota.

@DeWayfarer I’m hearing this as “All Lives Matter” and even if you don’t [b]mean[/b] it that way, a dismissal of the point of the post. 😠

@bijouxbroussard the problem with the so called "all lives matter" is they don't want to address the economic problems. Why I refuse to recognize them. They are basically do nothing type people.

They don't want to address anything so they protest against the loudest groups. You don't see anyone of them attempting to improve anything for anyone.

They are still basically racists.

@DeWayfarer The "All Lives Matter" folks come on my posts in the [b]Black Lives Matter[/b] group with "what about [b]this[/b] group ? Or these people ? Or this other situation ?"

You know, the way you’re doing now ?

Yes, I know about everything else. But this is what I’m posting about [b]here[/b]. 😑

@bijouxbroussard I'm not doing what ifs! 🤷🏻‍♂️

Economics IS the problem. They don't want to improve anything. Hence why the "what ifs"!

@DeWayfarer Not “what if”. [b]Whataboutism[/b].

@bijouxbroussard their questions are directed about everything other than fair economics for everyone.

They refuse to address it. The reason is obvious. They are using economics to keep the poor people down. That's all poor people.

@DeWayfarer And yours are about every situation other than this particular post.

@bijouxbroussard "How can we win"! Through better economics. She says so herself!

@DeWayfarer But she’s speaking of a specific situation, while you’re going on about "what about" everyone else on the planet, and listing them, from Russia to Tian’anmen Square. ”All Lives Matter".

@bijouxbroussard again that group always refuses to address what even she has mentioned! Please! She has the right idea! Improve the economics.

@DeWayfarer You still don’t [b]get[/b] it.

@bijouxbroussard very first statement about the wealthy black people! Then protestors then rioters. She supports all three, yet she says that in reference to black people.

I totally agree with the exception of just one race! We all should!

Then she goes onto why! Yet stresses blacks.

I totally agree again except everyone should! Every poor person is going through the same thing. Everyone should be questioning "that why". Why are "people" that poor! That applies to everyone now. "That why" is what she herself is talking about.

Then she goes on about slavery. Yet she applies it only to black people. Black people are still not the only ones that are slaves.

The economics is the problem. I totally agree. Cure the economics you even cure racism. Because all absolutely must work with everyone to fix it!

Yet those "whataboutism" people refuse to talk about economics!

The only differences in what she is saying is the extent of the problem. It's far far bigger than just black people.

Don't limit it. If you limit it you can only increase the despairity of others or do nothing because you might get into a Tian'anmen Square situation everyone will suffer.

The trumpets of this world would just love the later situation. They are unabashed racist! Not just "whataboutits" that really don't want to do anything.

I saw white people in those very same protestors, rioters and looters. Don't tell me you didn't. 🤷🏻‍♂️

They are in the same situation They as well are saying "why that".

Again she right. It's economics. PEOPLE just don't own anything!

I can't tell you how many times I lost everything. I been homeless four times all across this country! And it's extremely likely it will happen again.

In fact if you don't hear from me in the next couple of months that's the reason. At my age I'm not likely to survive it.

You may think I don't understand, yet I don't believe you understood the hell both my parents went through in WWII nor why my own father never owned anything. He was always a renter his whole life.

@DeWayfarer If you were posting about another specific group of people in a specific set of circumstances (for example the Holocaust and someone speaking about the Jewish experience) how much would [b]you[/b] appreciate someone coming in with a laundry list of all the other people of the world, basically telling you that this was nothing special, all people have faced hardship, don’t just limit it to one group of people ? I bet you wouldn’t appreciate if it wasn’t the point of your post. You would probably advise that person to author their own post to discuss the rest of the world’s problems.

Does that make sense ?

@bijouxbroussard nope because my very family name was wiped out by that history and no i have no Jewish history.

There are no longer any records when there once was something. The records stop at before my grandparents, even their records were expunged.

@DeWayfarer [quote]It's far far bigger than just black people.[/quote]
I don’t know what to say. I’ve tried analogies but I don’t think you’re hearing me. Maybe Trevor can explain why in this instance, [b]this[/b] conversation is not about everyone else. It [b]is[/b] specific to black descendants of slaves in the U.S. If you don’t get that, it’s because you’re choosing not to, and unfortunately, that puts you in the same category as the "All Lives Matter" folks, whether it’s your intention or not.
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@bijouxbroussard please ask yourself why You are not addressing economic issues even for yourselves much less anyone else! 🤷🏻‍♂️

"Why that"? You're not hearing me either. 🤷🏻‍♂️

The greed in Economics is the reason behind everything including the racism.

Repayment of anything especially present crimes can not begin until the economics is resolved.

I have seen this video before. I like him, yet even he absolutely refuses to address the real economic issues, instead focusing on, as you say, "whateverism" of all the PAST problems, never any current day economic SOLUTIONS.

Get to the root of the problem before you address anything else. The root of the problem is the greed in economics. Or you'll be forever asking and not receiving reparations.

The current economics will never give in to it. It's more blind than everyone else is. The economic system is racist against All the poor, even if it's more so against some than others. It's still the problem. And no one is addressing the economic problems in any way.

I don't like quoting the bible. I think you know why. Yet there is one simple truth in it that I believe is the total truth...

"For the love of money is the root of all evil". ie ECONOMICS.

Please focus on it, for yourselfs as well as everyone else.

No you can't repay enough for passed regressions. Yet you can fix things for future generations.

For without fixing the problem you will continue the multiple problems.

Remember the past, yet keep your head forwards, not backwards.

Looking backwards while walking forewards is asking for disaster to occur once again.

I really don't want that to happen for you or anyone else.