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Being kind, though not nice

C.S. Lewis wrote once: "Christ died for men precisely because men are not worth dying for; to make them worth it". This famous statement appeared in his essay collection The World's Last Night: And Other Essays, meaning human value comes from God's love rather than any natural human merit.

Lets pause here. Did you know C.S. Lewis predicted the modern obsession with “being nice” would actually destroy the soul? In The Abolition of Man he argued that when a society stops believing in objective virtue, it doesn’t become tolerant… it becomes manipulable.

He called the result “men without chests”: people with appetites and intellects, but no courage, no honour, no trained moral instincts. They can still calculate everything but defend nothing. Lewis saw that once we reject inherited moral law as such, we never can become free. The innateness is indeed important.

In short, Lewis argued that we all become along this path mere raw material… easily shaped by propaganda, pleasure, and fear. Human emotions given more importance than morality. One prides oneself on compassion while quietly surrendering every standard that once gave compassion meaning.

Lewis’s insight is actually extremely brutal: a civilization like ours that educates clever cowards will eventually be ruled by tyrants or technicians. Because when nothing is worth dying for, everything becomes negotiable… including human dignity. Just think who fits that definition of clever coward now!

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Birdbox1986 · 31-35, F
Are you a Scientologist ?
val70 · 56-60
@Birdbox1986 You do know who C.S. Lewis was, I hope?
Birdbox1986 · 31-35, F
@val70 I don’t know sorry, I thought he was the guy who
Lead Scientology
val70 · 56-60
@Birdbox1986 No, you're wrong. It was founded in the fifties by a chap called Hubbard.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
But there are good reasons that we rejected many "inherited moral laws". They had become corrupted or simply were not robust enough to cope with the 20th century.
val70 · 56-60
@SunshineGirl I'm sure that your laws will be much better. Go with flow indeed.
SunshineGirl · 36-40, F
@val70 They are keeping children and the most vulnerable in society safer, which is all that matters.
val70 · 56-60
@SunshineGirl Innate laws were there before anything else. I'm sure that abolishing slavery whilst children were working in factories had indeed a sense of the modernism about it. When one turns ones back to what one could call the human endeavor to be kind and centre on love one risks becoming what Lewis rightly called out mere vessels where others can pour their own crooked views of the world into. Thus free child care is called communism in the United States, and there's the current president in the White House. Society begets its leaders that it desires. The desire to be like Trump trumped any human morality.
Rabscuttle · 41-45
The problem there is that Christ didn't die for humanity- that's just Roman apologism masquerading as Christianity. The sins of man against God were always within God's power to forgive; no bloodshed was necessary. The sins of man against man were NEVER within God's power to forgive; no bloodshed could change that. Christ- well, Jesus- died for GOD, not us- Yahweh had, to that point, showed up clearly and unambiguously evil by any rational definition, with His only positive attribute being loyalty to His chosen humans.

Since that obviously didn't fly with Christianity's universal message, the Romans, recognizing its potential as a tool of incredible social control, reframed Christianity as humanity once again needing to placate a perpetually angry deity, who was furious at us for His own mistakes in creating us. That so many modern Christians fail to see the obvious flaw that "inherent human flawedness" and "God's love" are mutually exclusive is all the evidence anyone needs that they haven't actually thought the matter through- and consequently, that they're NOT proceeding from a position of belief in objective morality, but instead from one of presumed moral superiority, because that which is objectively true will stand up to basic logical scrutiny.

In a word, Original Sin isn't morality; it's a nonsensical marketing gimmick. Sin requires moral agency, and you can't have that for something that happened thousands of years before you were born. The only reason anyone would worship a deity who horribly punished innocent people for His own failings and still demanded to be called "loving" and "merciful" is simple cowardice- unless, that is, said deity admitted those sins and tried to atone for them.

The crucifixion WAS that atonement: God finally trying to prove that He WAS good, rather than just powerful; getting off the bench and finally putting some skin in the game. Lewis utterly failed to understand that, which is why the Planets trilogy collapses a quarter of the way through the second book.

One can't properly understand Lewis without understanding Chesterton, and hardly anyone reads him any more (and when they do, it's for his detective stories). Lewis, like Tolkien alongside him, fell into the trap of Chesterton's romanticized Roman revanchism, but neither of them had anything like Chesterton's intellectual power, and so fell into every ditch he so adroitly leapt over (before slamming face-first into a wall, but that's a different matter). Human dignity can't exist when it's subject to be destroyed at the slightest whim of a tyrant, and whether that tyrant is mortal or divine makes no difference.
val70 · 56-60
@Rabscuttle G.K. Chesterton famously quipped that if a man lives long enough, he will choose between absolute skepticism and the Roman Catholic Church. In the context of C.S. Lewis, Chesterton "got it wrong" because Lewis converted to generic, "mere" Christianity and remained an Anglican until his death, defying Chesterton's binary prediction.

Historic Christian creeds like the Apostles' Creed and the Nicene Creed state that Jesus Christ suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. The creeds emphasize his actual physical death, the separation of his soul from his body, and his descent to the realm of the dead before rising on the third day.

Christian doctrine teaches thus that God's justice requires a penalty for human rebellion, and Christ willingly took that penalty in humanity's place. His death and descent broke the grip and fear of death, liberating those held captive by sin. The cross serves as the ultimate proof of divine solidarity, showing that God chose to absorb human suffering rather than remain distant from it.

Lewis, shaped by his Ulster Protestant upbringing and his deep love for medieval English literature, believed in "mere Christianity"—the core doctrines shared by all major Christian traditions without the single specific authority. He valued the liturgy of the Anglican Church, its intellectual breadth (via figures like Richard Hooker), and its via media approach, which satisfied his theological conscience.

He faced criticism for logical gaps in his apologetics, oversimplified moral frameworks, and dated cultural biases embedded in his popular writings. Putting the use of Trilemma Oversimplification aside, I find the critique of the Universal Morality as yet another example of the self-defeating features within today's intellectual thinking. Moreover, philosophers argue that Lewis's framing of evil as a mere "parasite" or absence of good fails to resolve the logical tension regarding how an all-powerful deity coexists with active, destructive force.

Michael Ramsey frequently highlighted that defending the faith required an incarnational approach of entering human doubts with loving sympathy, a philosophy that deeply mirrors Lewis's own apologetic method in works like Mere Christianity. In his book The Lion's World: A Journey into the Heart of Narnia, Rowan Williams also defends C.S. Lewis. He shows that Lewis cannot be neatly be boxed into modern "right" or "left" political camps. His themes challenge self-righteousness across the cultural spectrum.

Williams argues that Lewis's imaginative fiction captures classical orthodox theology more deeply than his formal apologetics. He defends Lewis against modern cultural labels and critics, portraying his work as an invitation to radical grace, joy, and human openness. He acknowledges artistic or cultural limitations in Lewis's work without dismissing his core spiritual and literary contributions.
Magenta · F
Interesting post. I believe most of what you wrote to be true, actually.

And the preaching of kindness and morality but not acting on it, actually has a repulsive affect on me.. It's not real, it's words or virtue signaling or pretentious and manipulative. We live what we are, we don't mouth it. It's rare for a person to have such in depth knowledge of true human nature, because it's too hard for most to believe what it is at it's core. It IS brutal for a society that want's to be placated with pretty words..

I think you are relating it to one man, but doesn't it fit much of society now?
val70 · 56-60
@Magenta I'm presonally sick and tired of noticing people the claim that society or lets say civilization is somehow unsafe. And as individuals we're now better than in the past and anyone else living on this planet. We're not. There's something dramatic going on. Somehow the codex of laws isn't going to protect one's own homestead any more. We're experiencing extreme fright from that, but not that this present generation of children is somehow going to be less intelligent than its successors.

What is a common reaction to my postings on here? Either I get the complaint that it's AI or that it's too way complicated. I find the fright not in the influx of people that are different than me, but in the overall desire to be indeed that one man. It trumps after more than a decade now again and again the morality that was evident before as a direct consequence of the Second World War. The mass success of Billy Graham's large-scale evangelical revival events was an example of that.

Lets take now that one big success from the past. It dates from the same period as most of the writings of C.S. Lewis. Graham was combining a truly positive message of personal forgiveness with the early adoption of mass media, modern cooperative crusade planning, and a polished, approachable image that matched post-war America's search for spiritual security. That Tolkien wrote his The Return of the King about the same time is also evident of that projection of hope.

 
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