How an uncanny thing called covid destroyed our lives

The years of living with increasingly oppressive Covid restrictions and mandates is a tale of many villains complicit in tyranny and a few heroes of resistance. It’s a story of venal, incompetent politicians and brutish police – thugs in uniform – acting at the behest of power-drunk apparatchiks.

Medically idiotic, economically ruinous, socially disruptive and embittering, culturally dystopian, politically despotic: what was there to like in the Covid era?
[i]
Billions, if you were Big Pharma.

Unchecked power, if you were Big State.

Power over the whole population of a state and fame with extended daily TV appearances on all channels, if you were a chief medical officer.

More money and power over the world’s governments and people for the WHO.

Template for action for climate zealots.

Dreamtime for cops given free rein to indulge their inner bully.[/i]

But anguished despair, if you were a caring, concerned citizen who loves individual freedom and autonomy.

[b]But if you think it was all justified and good, then you have been taken in hook, line and sinker.[/b]

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

You really do get worse.

The[i] real [/i]actions taken were genuinely [i]for[/i] the good even if not always "good" to take, and undoubtedly many mistakes were made as well as right choices, around the world.

I hope we all learn from the mistakes to be better prepared for the next pandemic, whenever it comes, whether
milder or far worse.

You can hardly call the powers you greatly distort and exaggerate, "dystopian" though when you clearly want pandemics to have their own dystopian way to suit your one-man, pseudo-political campaign against anyone trying to fight such diseases.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ArishMell do you have any evidence this "mistake" was done with good intentions? Strange how good was ignored when the evidence of mass harm was made known.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@hippyjoe1955 Evidence? Even if produced it you'd rubbish it, but try simple logic: the simple fact that no government set out wilfully to harm as many people as possible.

Whatever the origins of Covid_SARS_19, still not resolved, everyone did their best to fight it. No doubt some countries' approaches were better than others; and it's there the mistakes were made, but it's up to everyone to learn what worked and what didn't, and thus meet the next pandemic or at least serious epidemic, better armed.

For who is to say what it will be, where it will start, how it will spread at what rate; and how much more or less dangerous it will be than the Renaissance-era Black Deaths, the 1918 Influenza, various Ebola outbreaks in Africa, and now Covid?

One thing's for sure, campaigning against any and all attempts to fight it will help no-one, but will help the disease.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ArishMell so the virus in question is a gain of function virus created in a lab and protected by patent. The early treatments were all wrong according to known medical practices. You don't put someone on a ventilator for congested lungs. That will kill the patient. There were known antivirals that work against airborne viruses such as is covid. Ivermectin and HCQ are known to be effective and known to be safe. It is well known that masks can not work against a virus and shutting down the economy is both insane and ineffective. Then there were the vaxes.... so again how could the government have a perfect score at doing the wrong thing? Every solution they had was wrong and anyone who disagreed with them was shut down. I can accept bumbling ineptitude for a few things being wrong but not 100% failure rate. That is too much.

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@hippyjoe1955 I don't disagree with you that many governments, faced with a fast-moving new disease, made many mistakes and misjudgments, sometimes putting politics first.

Nevertheless, we generally had no choice but to try to find vaccines as well as immediate reactive treatments, so the former would reduce the latter - and also deaths - as much as possible.

And I also reject the illogical notion some still cling to, of the pandemic being a deliberate act by all countries' governments working in cahoots to do something universally bad for no stated reasons, when they struggle to co-operate for the common good of obvious reasons.

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ArishMell there a lot of options including doing nothing. This was not a mass killer. It was a failed bioweapon. Every effective treatment was ignored or banned and every treatment likely to cause death or injury was followed. No where is that more evident than the use of mandated killer vaxes. The vaxes were known to be deadly before they were ever tried

ArishMell · 70-79, M

@hippyjoe1955 So you'd have wanted the disease to run riot, and to hell with the consequences?

What will you want to happen if the next pandemic is something far nastier still? A new form of Tubercolosis, Bubonic Plague, say, or Ebola? Or "even just" a new, severe Influenza strain? Let that run riot, too?

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

@ArishMell given that it was not a mass killer and given that there were known safe and effective treatments known from the outset.,. Not sure why there was a panic in the first place. More people were killed by the treatments/preventions than the disease. Strange how through our the early stages of covid the death rate remained normal. It only jumped when the vaxes were mandated. Hmmmmm

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ArishMell · 70-79, M

@TheEmperor No of course not! I didn't like the lock-downs either, although they affected only my social life.

It was a matter of what was thought necessary at the time; whether we come to see them in hindsight as having been right or wrong is another matter; and so far at least I as far as I know, and most (though not all) of my friends and relatives have escaped being infected by Covid.

Of course I don't want anything like that "on a whim, for anything"! :-)

hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M

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