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AMNESIA: the 2023 Pandemic of the Ruling Class

Everyone involved – both major political parties, deep state, media, tech, and pharma – wants everyone to forget about lockdowns, school closures, travel restrictions, church shutdowns, missed cancer screenings, wrecked small businesses, rent moratoriums, brutalized elderly, canceled weddings, zoom funerals, ventilator deaths, censorship and firings, masking children, rushed vaccines and injury/death, segregation by shot compliance, ruined household finances, substance abuse and suicide, lowered life expectancy, and the mass violation of the Bill of Rights.

All of this has become a great taboo, even though it wrecked the country and the world, and the damage is all around us. If enough people participate in a crime, it is made to disappear by all the commanding heights.

This way they never have to admit or apologize, and can do it all over again when the time comes.

The people have been prepped by their leaders to obey blindly. To accept the outrageous curtailment of their rights. They are ready to do anything if it will keep them "safe." It will be so easy to turn the screw on them next time.

[i]Source (for all those who refuse to consider anything unless they have "the source"): observation, reasoning, and common sense[/i]
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AbbySvenz · F
Yes, sheltering in place, social distancing, masking up, and washing your hands were such difficult hurdles 🙄
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz Given that none of those things worked....
AbbySvenz · F
Citation needed. Real studies, scholarly papers, not anecdotal hearsay @hippyjoe1955
Fairydust · F
@AbbySvenz people that believe that are part of the problem we have now.
AbbySvenz · F
“People who believe that” are the ones who did their part to curb the spread
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz No those were the quislings of the pandemic. They didn't understand the science nor did they question those who took away their rights.
AbbySvenz · F
So you have no citations.

And I think the epidemiologists, virologists, and biologists have a much better grasp on things than you do @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz and you believe them why? Because they have citations? Really? The facts are not on your side. In truth nothing that was mandated saved one life. The vax has been shown to kill 1 in 1000 jabs. Much much much higher than the virus which was a mild cold if treated with known effective treatments.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@AbbySvenz It was too difficult for people in the UK, during the pandemic I interacted with 3 people and didn't get Covid (even though one of those people had to care for people with the illness). However the Prime Minister and the future King both had Covid, two of the people with the most resources could not play by those simple rules.
AbbySvenz · F
Again: citation needed on your “1 in 1,000” number. @hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz Again you are looking for a citation you would never read. Yawn. If you are asking for citations you are part of the problem not part of the solution. Citations don't mean a thing. Given that I know 5 people killed by the vax..... 5 PEOPLE Dead in my circle of friends. I don't know anyone who has had the vax that hasn't had some ill effect from it. Most are minor but they are lingering. Then the fact that the vaxed in my circle of friends have had covid more often and more severely than the unvaxed. I don't need citations. I see it with my own eyes.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@AbbySvenz If I may join this argument, I personally did not have the vaccine for good reasons however I can vouch that the precautions you stated in your opening statement worked, maybe not all but some must have. As I previously stated my partner had to look after personal care for a number of people who were confirmed Covid cases and she never got Covid this was down to protective clothing and hand cleansing. The times she was in contact with Covid would mean the odds of her not getting it were astronomical but for the precautions.
AbbySvenz · F
Which sort of attests to the truth behind the claims that frequent hand washing and masking up [i]work[/i].@GeniUs
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@AbbySvenz and for me social distancing which is great because I'm not too fond of people anyway.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz sadly washing your hands doesn't do much to stop an airborne illness. The fact is that many people had the disease and didn't know it. There were no symptoms for many.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I can clarify a couple of things here:
1 in 3 cases of Covid had no effects whatsoever but that does not mean 1 in 3 people were immune. Again one of the carers tested positive for Covid twice; first time absolutely nothing, second time a wreck for 2 weeks.
Washing hands just makes sense, if you're at the supermarket and some skank has coughed into their hand then touched a surface which you then touch need I go on?
AbbySvenz · F
I’m not doubting your personal experience, @hippyjoe1955. Every death from this pandemic was [i]somebody[/i] to somebody else, and they are sad losses. Friends of mine lost grandparents, aunts, uncles. Neighbors of mine died.

But five people in your immediate circle still aren’t the “1 in 1,000” that you claimed.

If you’re going to make claims, then [i]state your experience [/i]rather than parroting conspiracy theory numbers that have been debunked ages ago, based on misrepresentations of data or bad reporting
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GeniUs You don't pick an airborne virus from a surface. You pick it up by being in the area where the virus is airborne. Kind of like wearing a mask that allows for the easy passage of the virus because the mask does not have adequate seal or filtration.
AbbySvenz · F
Hand washing is meant to combat aerosols that have landed on hard surfaces that are frequently touched: tables, doorknobs, and the like. It isn’t entirely necessary if those surfaces are frequently disinfected, but the more layers of prevention, the better the chances of not getting sick to begin with @hippyjoe1955
AbbySvenz · F
[i]The fact that many people had it and didn’t know it is [b]precisely the reason[/b] for the social distancing and sheltering in place[/i] @hippyjoe1955
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 Oh boy. It's only airborne because it's on the moisture that people exhale, it can land on any surface. You're going to have to use your common sense here.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@AbbySvenz Had treatment bene available virtually no one would have died from covid. It simply was not that deadly a disease. Most people were killed by medical malpractice not the virus. Every hear of ventilators? How about Remdisovere? Or as it is more commonly known remdiesevere.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GeniUs It is inhaled. It comes through the air you breathe. It is exhaled by those who have it. It is not a surface born illness. You can wash your hands every 2 minutes and still get the illness by simply having someone who has it walk by you.
GeniUs · 56-60, M
@hippyjoe1955 I'm out. I'm afraid you can't be told but don't take my word for it literally every outlet explains it as I have and here's the best thing, understanding this won't impact any of you other views on Covid.
Every outlet and also it's common sense that it spreads that way.
AbbySvenz · F
Malpractice? Think again. This is just one account of what the pulmonary therapists had to go through:

https://www.propublica.org/article/a-medical-worker-describes--terrifying-lung-failure-from-covid19-even-in-his-young-patients/amp

@hippyjoe1955
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@GeniUs Right back at you. You want to believe that washing your hands does some good. If you are talking about fecal matter getting into your mouth I agree completely. Trying to prevent an airborne illness by washing your hands is like looking in your kitchen for a coin you lost in your bedroom because the light is better. Nice try but it just doesn't work that way.
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