Let's have a stateless and classless society

@BritishFailedAesthetic it's never happened

@Guitarman123 Attempts were made... ultimately it could not work, for the same lifestyle there is no point in being in a specialist role.

@BritishFailedAesthetic so your option is to maintain the status quo and just accept things as they are?

@Guitarman123 No, people on lower salaries need to have the rights to housing , affordable bills, a good salary,etc.

Keep the Capitalist system with some socialism mixed in.

@BritishFailedAesthetic oh yeah because the system does such an amazing job at looking after people with lower salaries

@Guitarman123 Improve it so it does is what I'm saying. I know it currently doesn't with a wife on welfare and me on a low salary.

How's your Che Guevara shirt which you brought off a merchant doing? Wear it when buying pints down the local with your mates/family 😅

@BritishFailedAesthetic I wear it regularly with pride and think labour should fight for workers rights and not just be passive

@Guitarman123 I agree. But you didn't get your T-Shirt for free no? 😉

@BritishFailedAesthetic It's not about getting free stuff it's about the people producing the shirt not being exploited and them recieving the fruits of their labor.

@Gloomy Agreed with the statement, people who manufacture tshirts should get a fair salary for a good living.

Come to think of it though wearing a Che Guevara Tshirt is like a MAGA Republican wearing a 'Pinochet Death Squad' hoodie.

@BritishFailedAesthetic why should I get it for free?

@Guitarman123 Because Anti Capitalism! 😉

@BritishFailedAesthetic what? Wearing a che Guevara t shirt that I bought makes me a capitalist? Please elaborate on how that's supposed to make any sense

@Guitarman123 Buying a piece of clothing from a merchant, making the owner richer, you capitalist 🐷

😂🤪

@BritishFailedAesthetic so i should never wear t shirts?

@Guitarman123 Nope, just proving a point about the system you benefit from 😏

Yes, it needs to be improved!

@BritishFailedAesthetic We are all benefiting from the labor of others... Capitalism is just a very bad way of organizing labor

@Gloomy So everyone get the same amount? I'll make sure to do a position of low responsibility then.

@BritishFailedAesthetic 😮‍💨 Same lame strawman of socialist positions. You just admitted to having never ever honestly engaged with left wing economical theories and ideas.

@Gloomy Read the thread, you'll see who I vote for 🙄 just because I don't celebrate the left wing version of Pinochet

@BritishFailedAesthetic Has very little to do with Che Guevara and more with your strawman

@Gloomy No your economics are FAR left Pure socialism/Marxism- maybe Communism?

@BritishFailedAesthetic and what point is that, I should support capitalism because I live in a capitalist system?

@BritishFailedAesthetic I see you don't even understand the differences between these terms
Also european labor parties were built on marxist thought

@Gloomy Yep, no issue with my pick n mix Marxism, I support the strikes.

I just don't go all out like you 🤪