Let's have a stateless and classless society
Where workers own the means of production
31-35, M
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Roundandroundwego · 61-69
How about you take the necessary steps to get there? Democratization. Lolz. Democracy and Murka? You definitely wants one only!
Too bad "nobody" is with us on that. "Here" in "online reality". We're never going towards democracy. Jokes rule. Memes stick it to the Marxists.
Too bad "nobody" is with us on that. "Here" in "online reality". We're never going towards democracy. Jokes rule. Memes stick it to the Marxists.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego so you want a state that exploits people for its own profits?
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 so you want to lie about me?
Maybe you can't do any better.
Maybe you can't do any better.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego just going by the fact that you clearly don't want a society without a state or any class division
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Guitarman123 you've said nobody is with that
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 @Guitarman123 nobody seriously tried to talk about democratization yet. Let's mock the Marxist ideas about a non caste system, a democracy. It's how ya roll. Democracy is a joke.
Who besides me ever said democracy in the economy, workers and voters controlling the means of production, was a necessary goal "here"?
Who besides me ever said democracy in the economy, workers and voters controlling the means of production, was a necessary goal "here"?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego so by you saying that it shows me that you're happy to maintain the status quo
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 so you're lying about me to get away from any arguments. It's how Dems win. You won. It's the best you could do.
Democracy certainly can't work if you top the smarties in Murka.
Democracy certainly can't work if you top the smarties in Murka.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego just going by how you're selling yourself. "democracy is a joke" that's your exact words.
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 you made the joke. Your post, your announcement- now you want to pretend it's serious?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego i simply said let's have a stateless and classless society where workers own the means of production. If that dosent suit you then that's cool just don't pretend that you don't enjoy serving a hierarchy
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 stateless? What steps are between us and our stateless democracy? Aren't people pretty likely to think you're scoffing at the possibility,?
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego put workers in control of the means of production and work towards Co operative societies
Roundandroundwego · 61-69
@Guitarman123 well, if people agreed that we have to take control away from the corporatocracy, they'd have a lot of problems in their way, lots of insurmountable issues to first deal with on the road to social democracy, and I doubt they're talking about the stateless future first.
Guitarman123 · 31-35, M
@Roundandroundwego nothing is achieved overnight nor goes smoothly. Most people by their nature aren't caged animals and like to have control over their own destinies and in This current system that just isnt the case