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Does anybody actually agree with the abortion ban?

I feel like this abortion ban is a disaster. It puts women and children in danger. People say that the new laws will hold women accountable and make them more responsible. ( And to top that off they are banning certain birth controls)
Teens are stupid. They're going to make dumb choices. Hell, even adults make dumb choices when they're horny or in love. Don't forget about people who aren't educated. It seems like to me it's okay for a male to make a mistake and get someone pregnant but the minute a young uneducated girl gets pregnant she's considered a whore and damnged goods.

Really can't stand this backwards culture


Gezz and don't even get me started with female teachers who screw young boys.
First of all I wouldn't characterise it as a ban - the reality is that the ruling that "legalised" it wasn't right since the supreme court was usurping power from the individual states that have democratically elected leglislatures therefore it was undemocratic.

The whole point of the US system is that each state is semi-autonomous so federal power is restricted to small number of areas of policy - e.g. defence or cross state crime etc. For stuff such as murder (for example) federal government has no involvement) and the local people through their elected representatives get to make those laws. Why did they treat abortion differently in the 70s? Well because surprise, surprise not everyone agrees that abortion is a good thing and the folks in federal government wanted to get their way despite what many people in those states actually wanted.

To me (and many won't agree I'm sure, but that is allowed), all human life has to be respected and supported where possible. It doesn't make sense to say that this life matters and that one doesn't - as soon as you do that you are opening the argument up to weigh up other lives - look what happened in Germany in the 1930s/40s when they used similar arguments to say that some lives are less valuable than others. I see these arguments today to support legalisation of post-natal abortions - I see that as evil. I do have sympathy with plight for women who have been made pregnant against their will or through error but short of a circumstance where the life of the woman is in danger I don't see that as a compelling argument. I do think the state should support such women though - e.g. through accomodation/financial support etc and the penalties for men doing this should be higher - they need to have consequences too, in times gone past it was a shotgun marriage but that has fallen out of favour now.

An analogy could be that imagine a person (A) finds themselves on the side of a bridge holding on to another person (B) dangling over the side. A is physically strong and B is very small so A has no problem holding onto B. B is unable to climb to safety by themselves. A can sustain B's weight for considerable period until help arrives or A is able to pull B to safety. If B falls they will certainly die.

In this situation A could let go of B and go about their business - would this be "right"? It would possibly be legal (I guess it would be a big legal argument) but would it be morally right?

I think most reasonable people would say that A should either pull B to safety or hold B until help arrives.
Abortion ban, ban books, end public education. This is White National Christians taking over the Government because the Republicans needed them for votes. Reagan was the first Republican to realize without the Evangelical Christians the Republicans would never win elections. The Christian Church will attack Women and Education but never Greed. Corporations will literally be able to kill people under their watch.
chrisCA · M
@Pitchblue I wonder if the "White National Christians" realize that a ban on abortions, and restricting birth control will affect disadvantaged groups, such as racial minorities?
@CheekyBadger Its the Republicans that are desperately trying to stop Democrats, Independents from voting.
@chrisCA White Women get the most abortions now and will still get abortions leaving hundreds of thousands of Black and Brown babies in Red States. Does that make any sense?
SW-User
In a world where overpopulation is becoming a huge problem I think it's safe to say that banning abortion is an immoral decision.
Woofwoof15 · 26-30, F
@SW-User ohh interesting story plot idea
smileylovesgaming · 31-35, F
I consider abortion murder. If the child has a heart beat it is alive. If u don't want to have a child there is plenty of parent's that would take a healthy boy or girl.
Rhode57 · 56-60, M
No I dont . NO ONE has the right to tell another person what they can and cant do with their body . Even the bible states that no one is perfect so has no right to tell others what to do . We are not God . I find it very hippacritical that in courts they say in god we trust then in the next instance play god and judge others . WHAT FUCKING HIPPACRITES .
DeWayfarer · 61-69, M
Under your concerns. I really don't have any answers, unfortunately.

As long as this extremism continues, there always will be a problem. Extremism has been going on for thousands of years. And it's the source of the very same problem as this and a plethora of others.
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@SW-User them sick fucks need there throats cut
If it puts women and children in danger? How? Baby's in the womb can't run from the knlfe that makes it dangerous for them doesn't it ...asking a women or a man to be responsible is not putting them in danger no it doesn't it makes them responsible doesn't it ....
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@Bodymindsoul A fetus in the womb has no rights and is as long as it's in the womb part of a womans body. There are many instances where an abortion is much better for the life of a woman.
@SW-User yes. For the women in some cases not just to slay the fetus cause the women spreads her legs to much OR GUYS THAT DON'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR Spreading THERE SEED ....CUT THE TUBES IN BOTH AND WALLA NO NEED TO KILL THE FETUS IT WAS TWO PEOPLE THAT TOKE THE RIGHT OF THE FETUS IN THE FIRST PLACE
SW-User
Well written can't agree more!
I don't know anymore.
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I really think everyone should be sterilized at the onset of puberty (or even earlier if this may one day be possible), procreation should be completely divorced from sex, and completely taken out of the hands of individuals ... there were actually good ideas in Brave New World

 
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