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I think some transgenderism is the result of a desire of some young people to follow a trend.

While younger teenagers were just 7.6 percent of the total U.S. population, they made up roughly 18 percent of transgender people. Likewise, 18- to 24-year-olds made up 11 percent of the total population but 24 percent of the transgender population.

Some is greater social acceptance, too, no doubt.
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BlueVeins · 22-25
Eh, this seems very much like a circlejerky rorschach test kinda thing, ya kinda just notice a phenomenon & match it to however you kinda just already felt about transgenderism and the youth. Part of the difference could be (almost certainly is) due to rising acceptance. Part of the difference could be 'trendiness'. Part of it could even be related to pornography, who knows (ik this sounds dismissive but it makes sense that the sheer variation could re-wire ppl's understandings of gender roles & sex). And testosterone rates among men have been declining for decades now, so hell it could even be that. It'd be neat to see a study that tries to explore this, but honestly I think pontificating on it at this point reflects on ourselves much more than on the issue itself.
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@BlueVeins can you expand upon your last point made where you said, "...I think pontificating on it at this point reflects on ourselves much more than on the issue itself"?
BlueVeins · 22-25
@astrosandorbits Nobody knows which factors actually cause things, so we just fill in the answer with whatever fits our pre-conceived notions on the subject. That's all.
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@BlueVeins interesting. I hadnt thought of it that way but it makes sense. We all know correlation does not mean causation, so sometimes making sweeping generalizations on the matter is mostly futile at this point. Regardless of what we believe about/how we view transgenderism on a moral and political level.
blindbob · 41-45
@BlueVeins That's such a copout. Our work as scientists is to seek the answers.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@blindbob You're not a scientist, you're a globster on the internet like the rest of us, making assumptions about people you don't know or care about. 💅
blindbob · 41-45
@BlueVeins You don't know anything about me.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@blindbob idc we're all the same, you didn't even deny it.
blindbob · 41-45
@BlueVeins I'm an academic. I have published articles, presented at conferences, and I teach. For obvious reasons, when I'm on pages like this I use a pseudonym.
BlueVeins · 22-25
@blindbob Cool what's your field of study
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@blindbob im curious to know your field of study as well
blindbob · 41-45
@BlueVeins @astrosandorbits My primary area is immigration studies, but I look at its intersections with race/ethnicity, nationhood, class, gender/sexuality, and citizenship. I'm working on an article right now that's exploring the connection between gender/sex identities and the rise of the digiverse. I'm looking at how becoming disembodied in digital spaces changes our relationship with our bodies, identity, and our sense of being, but the more I dig into this topic, the more I'm convinced that I can't publish it without being ostracized. For one, you can't make even a loose comparison to transracial identity, and I can't cite the scholars I'd like to because they've got scarlet letters. I also don't like using terms like "cis" since I don't think they're true. No one identifies totally with the prescribed gender roles. The whole point of radical feminism was to argue that we all have masculine and feminine facets to our being. We are not just one thing. Some women are aggressive and some men are nurturers. I'm trying to find ways of saying what I'm saying without my audience shutting down or feeling alienated.
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@blindbob that's... actually extremely interesting and i appreciate you explaining your field of study and "academic discipline" if you would. I only have a bachelor's in psychology but im pursuing my doctorate in clinical work to become a clinical psychologist. I actually feel for what youre saying regarding worrying about being ostracized. When i was in experimental psychology, we conducted a study and sought to publish it. However, our findings and conclusions we reached after running our analyses and validity checks came up to be swaying in a direction that didnt agree to an agenda that has been set in the psychogy academic field. Because of this, we feared even during the presentation whether or not it would bother others who didnt agree to the data. Psychology is especially sensitive to a lot of people because it deals with subsets of human behavior. Im keeping this vague specifically because i dont like to display political beliefs over the internet nor do i like discussing it as it starts fights lol. And of course it isnt political, but it is made out to be political by others. The fact of the matter, though, is that your concern is a very real one felt by other scientists who are in a similar boat.
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Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@astrosandorbits @blindbob When you see what happened to Charles Murray..:
astrosandorbits · 26-30, M
@Fukfacewillie I'm honestly not familiar with who that is. Who is he and what happened?
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@astrosandorbits

The book was and remains highly controversial, especially where the authors discussed purported connections between race and intelligence and suggested policy implications based on these purported connections.

Needless to say he was ostracized
blindbob · 41-45
@Fukfacewillie I'm not a fan of his work, but I think our job is to rigorously debate people like him or simply ignore them.
Fukfacewillie · 56-60, M
@blindbob No issue with debate. My concern is the chilling effect on social research