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Does anyone out there use Kratom?

I have tried it, and it helps my energy level quite a bit.
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DogMan · 61-69, M
It looks like this has turned into an argument about illegal drugs. Portlander seems
to be very against ALL drugs, legal and illegal. And I see his point, I have seen what
happens to some people when they use drugs.

But on the other side of the coin, I would like to ask Portlander about HIS health.

Are you fit and healthy? Do you eat healthy and exercise every day?
Or do you consume mass quantities, and sit most of the day?

In one post you threatened Methdozer with physical violence, do you have
anger problems? That can be as bad as a drug addiction

I have done every illegal drug known to man over the last 50 years. I am
now 65, and I am healthier than most people of any age. I exercise
every day, and I eat healthy. I mostly lift weights and and use the elliptical.

I have Zero health problems at 65, and looking forward to another healthy 35 years.

But you know what? I have a couple beers everyday, after the gym, I also
take a puff of weed most days. And somehow I still run a successful
construction company. There are a lot of ways to ruin a life, and one
requires no drugs or alcohol, It's called over consumption, and lack
of physical exercise, which is worse? I don't know, it depends on the
person.

I have seen people kill themselves with food, and a sedentary life style.

But they did not use drugs, so they are good people, right?
@DogMan Oregon just recriminalized hard drugs because of how bad the street junkies and addicts got, and yes, I am against ALL illicit substances, of which Cannabis is not due to its very unique medicinal properties.

I used to be very healthy until an infection affected my heart valves in the early 2000's, BUT I was still able to work demanding occupations with the help of blood pressure meds, one of them hefting 100+ pounds of aluminum parts onto a cnc milling machine ten hours a day, six days a week. Before that infection I power walked 50 miles a week and power cycled around the city 100 miles a week. In 2013 I developed a nasty blood clot in my lung's brachial saddle branch that almost killed me and it affected me some, but I recovered and was still able to work, in early 2016 I had another bout of blood clots all throught both lungs that permanently sidelined me, I am now on assisted oxygen 24/7, I get extremely fatigued and severely short of breath with any kind of activity. However I still try to walk up and down my apartment building hallway to the other side and back, I am on one end, every two hours or so, and I cook healthy from scratch as best as I can, being a very serious home gourmet allows me to know how to cook healthy.

As for methdozer he obviously deleted his reply where he accused me of messing with children, you can see before I wrote that I corrected him on something about Professor Carl Sagan, if you were accused in the same manner you too would say the same as I did.
DogMan · 61-69, M
@NativePortlander1970 Sorry to hear about your health problems. I attribute my health
to supplements. I have been taking vitamins, minerals( liquid colloidal) and others most
of my life. I learned a long time ago that the foods we eat, do not have the nutrients our
bodies require. Even the fruits and vegetables. A lot of people say it's a waste of money,
but from my research, everyone should supplement.

Researchers have found that many of the problems they thought were genetic, were
due to families with the same diets that were lacking the same nutrients, over a period
of years.

If you get a chance, check out "Dead Doctors don't lie" Years ago an agricultural
veterinarian named Joel Wallace found farm animals getting the same diseases
that we get. He did autopsies on them and found the cause was lack of essential
nutrients. Farmers now supplement their livestock, and the problems went away.
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