Does anyone out there use Kratom?

@NativePortlander1970 not nearly as many people who have died of liver failure from alcohol. You’re misinformed and I’m far from surprised…

@RunTheJulz When even a meth tweaker is warning you not to use it you should listen.

@NativePortlander1970 experience with one of the worlds worst substances does not an expert make…

@RunTheJulz When even a tweaker won't touch something, take their advice.

cc: @MethDozer

@NativePortlander1970 I already said that isn’t a valid metric to me. You’re getting more cognitively dissonant with age… Just stfu when you are wrong it’s best for all involved!!

@RunTheJulz The worst thing about drugs are the junkies that refuse to think they're drugs.

@NativePortlander1970 I would say that the criminal acts committed in desperation for a fix would be a great deal worse than that… but I don’t expect that you’ll able to agree with me.

@RunTheJulz I have known many junkies in my life, you are obviously one yourself by the way you're defending a massively toxic narcotic.

@NativePortlander1970
Yeah sure Jack.. and you just keep telling yourself whatever keeps you off the playgrounds and your hands off the little kids…
Drugs are not for everyone. You’re a great example of that… doesn’t mean that some people don’t have amazing and profound experiences with them. Artists are just one example. Musicians have been able to create some amazing music through their own drug use. Even though I don’t consider LSD to be a drug people like Carl Sagan credits LSD with helping him visualize theoretical physics. This is not a question of whether drugs are right or wrong. They just are. Whether you’re right or wrong for them is an entirely different subject which you’ve made abundantly clear that you can’t handle a reality augmented by chemistry. I don’t really care. I see that as a you problem and I hope that you can solve it… for the sake and peace of humanity if for nothing else. I’m guessing that you are not exactly fun at parties lol

@NativePortlander1970 I'm not a tweaker or use meth

@MethDozer Then what exactly does your name mean?

@NativePortlander1970 It''s just an absurd name. It has no meaning really. I take it you don't have much sense of humor.

@MethDozer I have zero humor when it comes to narcotics.

@NativePortlander1970 Even when they're funny?

@MethDozer Narcotics are not funny

@NativePortlander1970 they can be. Also meth isn't a narcotic anyway, it's a stimulant

@MethDozer Regardless, it's still a dangerous illegal substance, the form of it that's given to children as adderal should have never been approved, nor a form of cocaine as ritalin, they zombify them and doesn't allow them to be kids.

@NativePortlander1970 adderal isnt a form of meth. Nor is ritilan a form of cocaine. Jesus ritilan and cocaine aren't even in the same class of drugs or chemicals. At least meth and Adderall were both amphetamines.

@MethDozer [media=https://youtu.be/E4MXLKlKRmE]

@NativePortlander1970 I don't care what some random dude says. Ritilan is not one molecule away from crack/cocaine. That's not true at all.

@MethDozer Prove him wrong then.
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@NativePortlander1970 okay I will.

Here you go
Methylphenidate


Cocaine

@NativePortlander1970 As someone who has ADHD ( currently non medication controlled). I can tell you this women's idea of what ADD/ADHD is, is completely wrong.

She's also wrong that stimulants somehow have an opposite effect on us than they do on others. They calm us down or stop acting like stimulants. This woman has no idea what she is talking about.