How do you think societies would have evolved without politics and religion?
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without religion, it would've been magnitudes better (particularly once science arose and we universally recognized the value of science over superstition, but that still hasn't happened even today in the western world, clmate denier and antivaxxers and such are still a sizable and damaging slice of humanity)
but to think politics would never exist is to deny the nature of the actual human species, and the extremely slow rate of biological evolution — as our species stands, 2 people will never agree on everything, 100 won't, one million won't, and eight billion and rising certainly won't, ergo it is inevitable that government will be needed, to address things like murder at a bare minimum (and the reality of resource scarcity on one planet with unchecked procreation ... Earth has lost 33% of its forests since the the last ice age and the invention of agricculture, ramped up further by the agriculture tha does not even feed humans but instead feeds cattle ... and now human-induced climate change is also reducing the amount of arable land available for agriculture), and politics will naturally follow the instuting of governance ... human beings will never exist without it, except maybe ten thousand years into the future, assuming we have not already made ourselves extinct within the next 100 to 300 years
even within the US itself, at the moment of creation of the nation some founders warned of creating political parties, and then literally five minutes later were realizing they actually *gasp* disagreed on various topics, and birds of a feather naturally gravitated to one another ... I mean before the country was even actually founded officially, the north and south could not even agree on getting rid of slavery, so "politics" is inevitable, and to deny this doesn't get the species anywhere until such time our DNA is so uniform that we literally disagree on nothing because we were essentially clones (and current humans would likely regard that as dystopia, even if it were really the utopia they simultaneously clamor for in our current era)
the things that would actually make humanity less of a virus on this planet and more sustainable are also largely distasteful to a species still overwhelmingly ruled by emotion before logic and rational thought, at our current stage of evolution ... our current (inadequate) level of evolution is also unquestionably incompatible with absolute individual freedom, because we're still collectively very much malignant narcissists
but to think politics would never exist is to deny the nature of the actual human species, and the extremely slow rate of biological evolution — as our species stands, 2 people will never agree on everything, 100 won't, one million won't, and eight billion and rising certainly won't, ergo it is inevitable that government will be needed, to address things like murder at a bare minimum (and the reality of resource scarcity on one planet with unchecked procreation ... Earth has lost 33% of its forests since the the last ice age and the invention of agricculture, ramped up further by the agriculture tha does not even feed humans but instead feeds cattle ... and now human-induced climate change is also reducing the amount of arable land available for agriculture), and politics will naturally follow the instuting of governance ... human beings will never exist without it, except maybe ten thousand years into the future, assuming we have not already made ourselves extinct within the next 100 to 300 years
even within the US itself, at the moment of creation of the nation some founders warned of creating political parties, and then literally five minutes later were realizing they actually *gasp* disagreed on various topics, and birds of a feather naturally gravitated to one another ... I mean before the country was even actually founded officially, the north and south could not even agree on getting rid of slavery, so "politics" is inevitable, and to deny this doesn't get the species anywhere until such time our DNA is so uniform that we literally disagree on nothing because we were essentially clones (and current humans would likely regard that as dystopia, even if it were really the utopia they simultaneously clamor for in our current era)
the things that would actually make humanity less of a virus on this planet and more sustainable are also largely distasteful to a species still overwhelmingly ruled by emotion before logic and rational thought, at our current stage of evolution ... our current (inadequate) level of evolution is also unquestionably incompatible with absolute individual freedom, because we're still collectively very much malignant narcissists
hunkalove · 70-79, M
Politics and religion are the reason why this pitiful broken planet is dying. Both are all about greed, not life.
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who knows..
EldritchFox · 41-45, F
Same chaos, different reasons