Do you believe that YOU are a spiritual being ?

@LadyGrace What about evolution and common ancestor ?

@usher Nowhere in God's Word does it say we come from animals. God made humans separate from animals. Humans have body, soul, and spirit. Animals have a body and soul, but no spirit, although animals have the ability to see spirits, as confirmed in the incident of Balaam and his donkey. It reveals that it is possible for animals to see angels/spirits (Num. 22:21-33).

@LadyGrace of course I'm not saying that man came from animals. Evolution says that we evolved from a common ancestor. We were always mankind.

@usher I go by what God says, not man. I think he's infinitely smarter and wiser than man, and God said HE is our Creator.


[b][c=#BF0000]Furthermore, He made man in HIS image.[/c][/b]

@LadyGrace I agree with you. Where we differ is the method of how God created all life on Earth. Jesus was a carpenter and he created things from a changing material, and God the father used a similar process. Out of the dust of the Earth could be a double meaning for evolution of DNA

@usher I don't think there's anything to guess about on that. No reading into it. If God said we were created from the dust of the earth and it is DUST that we shall return to, that's good enough for me. God wanted us to understand, so He wouldn't say He created us from the dust of the earth, if we would have come from another lifeform or species. God told us exactly what process He used. Why add to it? Apes don't HAVE spirits. Have you ever seen an old ape turn into a human being before he died? There's not one record. And there's no such thing as reincarnation, so that's out.

@LadyGrace I can understand your convictions and belief. You believe in the bible literally and nothing wrong with that. However I read it as metaphorical and double meanings, with representations etc. I believe that God created the Earth/Universe in stages starting with the Big Bang of similar theory. I believe he used evolution to create man. I don't believe that Adam was one man. I believe that Adam and Eve were first men and First Women, other wise the story contradicts itself with cane and able having wives. So we disagree on the meanings of the bible , but not necessarily on it being from God

@usher And why would you believe that over God's own version? In all these statements, you're contradicting what God said and putting your own spin on it. Adam and Eve were first men??? Where are you getting this stuff? That is twisting God's own Word, which He says to be very careful of. That is not the teaching of the Holy Spirit. Why is it so important for you to twist those facts around? Who is teaching you this stuff? Certainly not God. You take away God's creativity.

@LadyGrace Did you know that to attribute the work of the Holy Spirit to something or someone else, is blasphemous? If you want the Truth, you go to God's Word, not man.

@LadyGrace Jesus spoke in Parables. They had double meanings too. Sure my interpretation came from God. Doesn't god speak to all his children. If you can explain to me where cane and able wives came from, then you've made it up too. God never spoke of making them. A literal Bible is none-sense to me. God gave me a brain and I'm using it just as he intended to. I believe in a metaphorical interpretation of the bible.

@LadyGrace Stop talking none-sense. You're beginning to sound like the way the Spanish Inquisition spoke. I have the truth. Your interpretation is wrong and it's you who are blasphemous not I.

@usher There are parables and there are literal meanings.

Adam and Eve surely had given birth to more children than just Cain and Abel at the time Abel was killed. They definitely had many more children later (Genesis 5:4). The fact that Cain was scared for his own life after he killed Abel (Genesis 4:14) indicates that there were likely many other children and perhaps even grandchildren of Adam and Eve already living at that time. Cain’s wife (Genesis 4:17) was a daughter or granddaughter of Adam and Eve. Since Adam and Eve were the first (and only) human beings, their children would have no other choice than to intermarry. God did not forbid inter-family marriage until much later when there were enough people to make intermarriage unnecessary (Leviticus 18:6-18).

@usher I'm only repeating what God said in His Word. What you are doing is twisting God's Word. But we will stop right here, because it's clear we're not going to agree and I'm not here to argue.

@LadyGrace Its obvious that you are making up the part where Adam and Eve had more children. It says nothing in the book of Genesis about that. Anyway that would make them all related in an unhealthy way. I also agree we should both stop as we have two different interpretations of the same bible. Your strict literal meanings are non-sense to me. You accept that Jesus spoke in parables which are symbolic stories to reach an open mind but yet you think that God can't do the same. Ok. Time to stop the bible bashing.

@usher How could I make that up about Adam and Eve, when I took it right out of the Bible and even gave you the Bible verses? 🙄

@LadyGrace I respect your belief and faith, but we differ on so much it's better that our debate ends. Because I don't believe in the bible creation story as literal it would only cause a debate acquiring a bitterness between ourselves. I don't want that to happen. So let's agree to disagree and may I wish you well in your bible studies and beliefs.

@usher I don't agree it would cause bitterness, but yes, we don't agree, so we'll leave it at that.

@LadyGrace I believe that we are animals and our skeletal entity , body , DNA is just as biological as all Primates. Who can say that other Primates won't evolve with souls or a religious conscience

@usher I saw under the Art section here that you like graffiti art. I do, too. It's fascinating how they do that. There are some great amateur artists out there, who have never had any training. That's one thing we both like. 😆

@LadyGrace yes, we have many things in common. Good observation