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"You're perfect the way you are" is such a disgusting statement. You have the potential to be much more.

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kimmy159 · F
Sure but that puts constant pressure on you. You can always be more, earn more, work more, study more. But to what point?
Therealsteve · 31-35, M
@kimmy159 To get more out of life and to have more to offer your loved ones?
kimmy159 · F
@Therealsteve Yes but at a certain point it might not always deliver actual value. There is a very interesting study about earnings for example vs happiness. They studied the peak of happiness vs the peak of earnings. The peak of happiness does not match the peak of earnings as some might assume. So the question is at which point should “more” become “enough” to not japordize your own happiness and that of others. The kids who have it all are not the happiest alive either which proves the theory as well 😁
Just like studying, learning and overperforming, at a certain point you just become burned out. We can’t be “on” and delivering more all the time. just sharing some thoughtflow here
Thrust · 56-60, M
@kimmy159 I saw in an elevator factoid that the apex of income/happiness was at $400k. After that you hit diminishing returns
Therealsteve · 31-35, M
@kimmy159 i never actually used the word 'happiness' though :) a lot of life is suffering and mundanity. If your goal in life is to be happy, then you are ironically going to find yourself depressed.

If, however, you find something with enough meaning, or if you take on enough responsibility, then you'll find that when life's inevitable suffering rears it's head, you'll have a strong reason to carry that suffering and not give up.

It's interesting that you mention studies on children though, I'm an educational psychologist who never stops updating myself on related courses and so studies on the feelings of children is something I read up on every day. In fact, I was just awarded by the College of West Lancashire for my work on early years neuroscience :D
kimmy159 · F
@Therealsteve That’s really interesting and congratz with the award!
The only thing I would argue is that finding something worth while does not work for everyone. I’m pretty convinced I already had an existential crisis from about 15 years old until I was 22 because I could not “find” meaning in anything and because nothing made me happy to be alive.
Nothing worked, anti depressiva, psychologists, sports, diets, etc.
What only helped me was saying to myself: look you have this life some people would have probably fought for to gain. You are going to be miserable for most of the time. Can’t find meaning? Then create it by setting goals and obtain them. Still not enough? Create something to live for instead. De-focus from yourself, make it secundary importance.
So I got married and had a son.
This works, my son is the light of my life and the reason I push through in everything.
I work as a finance / hr director because I push myself very hard at work. When others stop at 5 and say they are closed to burn out because of the insane pressure in the company, I’m the one having phone calls with them to be their steady support.
I follow free webinars about law updates in several countries we are active in and am the driving motor to have everything compliant. I write out the policies and procedures, cross check them with lawyers and then roll them out for colleagues to follow.

However even so, you still need a balance. You need to create happy moments for yourself and relaxation or you will find yourself burned out some day if the idea is always to do more than you’re doing now ^^ I feel for myself I can’t take on “more” anymore since all my time goes to work and family, and just a little to myself.
that’s why I think some things should definitely be enough 😃