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it is a fact that science is not fit to be an absolute authority of reality.

while science has undeniably expanded our understanding of the world, it is based on the data provided by our senses. however, these senses are limited and do not provide a complete picture of reality.

limited range of perception: our senses—sight, hearing, touch, taste, and smell—have a limited range. for example, humans can’t perceive ultraviolet or infrared light, yet we know through science that such wavelengths exist and have an impact on the world. this means that the reality we perceive with our senses is partial, and there may be entire dimensions or phenomena beyond our perception that are crucial to understanding the universe.

subjectivity of perception: each individual’s perception of the world is subjective and can be influenced by various factors, such as biology, environment, culture, and personal experience. our brains can be easily deceived (optical illusions, auditory hallucinations, etc.), and what one person experiences may not be universally true. this challenges the idea that sensory perception can be the sole basis for universal knowledge.

quantitative vs. qualitative knowledge: science often emphasizes objective, quantifiable data. however, much of human experience cannot be reduced to numbers or measurements. emotions, consciousness, moral intuition, and even the subjective experience of beauty or awe are not easily explainable by scientific methods alone. the qualitative aspects of life, which are a large part of human existence, elude the scientific method’s capacity to fully grasp.

potential for unobservable phenomena: there are phenomena that science may currently be unable to observe, like dark matter or consciousness itself. if science is only concerned with what can be directly measured by our senses or through instruments designed to extend those senses, it might miss out on aspects of reality that are beyond this scope.

the limits of instrumentation: even with advanced instruments that extend the range of human senses (microscopes, telescopes, etc.), there are still aspects of reality that remain inaccessible. instruments can enhance perception, but they cannot create the ability to sense things that our biology was not designed to detect. the very act of observing something through instruments can change its nature, as seen in quantum physics, where observation affects the outcome of experiments.

philosophical limitations:
scientism assumes that all meaningful knowledge is scientific. however, there are philosophical questions about existence, meaning, and consciousness that science cannot answer. metaphysical questions, such as why the universe exists or what consciousness truly is, may fall outside the domain of empirical investigation.

tl;dr our senses are inherently limited, and the universe may contain dimensions and truths that our biology and our scientific instruments cannot yet access or fully interpret. therefore, scientism fails to account for the entirety of human experience and reality itself.

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Nope.

Science is largely done with instruments which are much better than our senses by

• not measuring subjectively;
• not being subject to becoming re-calibrated by exposure to dynamically-changing background;
• not being sensible only to exponential differences;
• having a far greater range than our senses;
• measuring with repeatable accuracy and better precision.

Further, the test of science's correctness is repeatability and usefulness in predicting outcomes. The NON-reproducibility of results is why the social "sciences" are on the ropes, while the natural sciences have brought you the technology via which you can have and access "the Internet".
thrash · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy

you, like most people, harbour a humancentric take that just assumes our biological makeup conveniently provides us with sufficient senses to detect reality in its entirety. a tree doesn't know I exist—but I exist! it has no way of knowing. you don't know xyz exists but perhaps it does—we have no way of knowing! instruments increase what we detect but we still only can detect these 5 types of information. what if there are more. what if there are aliens that can detect 500 different types of information. in the same way a tree cant claim it conveniently weilds the necessary sense to detect reality in its entirety, we can't either

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gpt, i choose you!:

take, for instance, the various tools that enhance our vision. a microscope allows us to see cells, viruses, and even the structure of molecules—things that are invisible to the naked eye. similarly, telescopes bring distant galaxies into view, offering a glimpse into the cosmos far beyond the reach of our unaided senses. however, these instruments only allow us to observe phenomena that fall within the bounds of the physical laws of nature, constrained by factors like the limitations of light, the size of the instrument, or the range of wavelengths we can detect. while they extend our ability to perceive, they cannot change the fundamental reality that we are biologically unable to sense certain phenomena, such as specific electromagnetic frequencies outside the visible spectrum (e.g., ultraviolet or infrared light).

moreover, the act of observation itself introduces an additional layer of complexity. in quantum mechanics, for example, the very act of observing or measuring a particle alters its behavior. this phenomenon, famously illustrated by the "observer effect," reveals that the act of measurement itself can influence the outcome of an experiment. this is most clearly demonstrated in experiments like the double-slit experiment, where particles such as electrons exhibit wave-like properties when unobserved but behave like particles when measured. the mere presence of an observer—or an instrument designed to detect these particles—seems to collapse the wave function, altering the state of the system.

this paradox raises significant questions about the nature of reality: does reality exist in a fixed, objective state independent of observation, or is it, in some sense, shaped by the act of perceiving it? instruments, therefore, do not just reveal the world as it is; they are active participants in defining what that world appears to be.

in a broader sense, this speaks to the limits of human knowledge and perception. as much as we can improve the tools we use to extend our senses, there will always be boundaries beyond which we cannot see or experience. the very nature of reality may include aspects that remain fundamentally inaccessible, either because they exist beyond our biological capabilities or because the act of observing them would, in itself, change their nature. the limits of instrumentation, then, are not just a matter of technological progress but also a reflection of the inherent constraints of human perception and the mysterious, possibly unknowable, aspects of the universe.
@thrash Yes, I read your opinion, which doesn't seem to understand science in other than the "I am aware of popularized versions" fashion.

Science, even with quantum mechanics being at the seeming ground-level, uses quantum mechanics...which is how you can do what you are doing in accessing this site.
thrash · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy
! instruments increase what we detect but we still only can detect these 5 types of information. what if there are more. what if there are aliens that can detect 500 different types of information.
@thrash And the biological nonsense you attribute to me...lmao

Nope
thrash · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy like i said—you harbour a humancentric take. or view. ..naturally. but humans are not the arbiters of truth
@thrash Well, wild speculation about 500 types of things some imagined, hypothetical alien can detect is exacy that:

wild speculation based on imagined, hypothetical notions

Science deals in the measurable, and doesn't accept wild speculation as proof.

But you are wrong about the narrowness of science. It has, in fact, discovered a number of observables in the universe which are NOT detectable via our senses.
thrash · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy verified with....(drum roll) our senses! but [reason]

ok ill be back tomorrow to argue ok
@thrash You don't understand what science has discovered and science is, in fact, the arbiter of scientific truth.

For any propositions which are decidable (or even potentially decidable), science is the way to go.

For undecidable propositions, have at them.
thrash · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy the point------->

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