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so many drank the kool-aid the government has served when about covid vaccines

i see this everywhere now where these people on their little imaginary high horse, thinking they are better than everyone who hasnt had the vaccine nor want it yet to me these people just come off as blind sheep who believe anything the government and mainstream media tell them.
Big tech companies all silence those who speak out differently and essentially free speech is slowly becoming a thing of the past.

There has been a lot of info that the vaccine is not a cure nor does it even prevent covid or spreading it. healthy people have died shorty after taking the vaccine. For example a healthy 13 year old recently died after his second injection..

People should wake up and stop being manipulated by fear and most of all stop thinking you are better than others because you are the government and big pharma's lab rats.

stop believing the death toll numbers the media lie to you about. They are manipulating you through fear and lies
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Pretzel · 61-69, M
I get the flu shot every year
I'll continue to get it
I got both doses of covid and will take a booster if and when it is declared necessary.

you're correct - it won't keep you from getting infected -but it appears to lessen the effects. Most of the hospitalized are unvaccinated.

just heard recently that the new variant is more infectious -but less deadly. I still don't want to get it.

Hell, I may wear the mask during flu seasons to come just to try to starve the little buggers to death ealier.

And there may be a cause/effect between the shot and dying. But given the number of deaths vs the number of injections they are statistically WAY lower than the correlation between people that get infected with covid 19 and die from it.

It apears that the after effects of being infected can be serious as well.

All in all - give me the needle.

I know we won't agree on it - doesn't really matter.

I'm not better or worse than you for taking the shots - just vaccinated.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Pretzel You are not vaxed. You are injected. A huge difference. Your choice in taking the jab. Not your choice on words to describe the jab. Vaccines have a very narrow definition as set out by the CDC. These jabs do not meet that definition. Nothing personal. Your choice to take it or refuse it.
Pretzel · 61-69, M
@hippyjoe1955 interesting - so what is the definition that the CDC put out and why doesn't the contents of the injection I had fit it?

not arguing - just curious about the comment
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@Pretzel The definition is on the web and I did post it earlier to someone else's comment. I don't have time to look it up this morning but basically it is and injection or other method of delivery of a substance that causes the body to develop immunity to the disease. For example the small pox vaccine has eliminated the smallpox disease among those who are vaccinated. If such an injection does not confer almost 100% immunity then it is no longer a vaccine. The injection you have had doesn't confer any immunity on you at all. The number of hospitalizations among the vaxed is identical to the unvaxed by population. IOW if 60% of the people are vaxed the percentage of vaxed people in the hospital with the disease is 60%. This has been observed in Israel Britain and Iceland. Of course no 'official' numbers say that so you can't do a quick google search to find it but you can develop a spread sheet using official numbers to get to those numbers.