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Teaching in the 1970s

This recollection was told to me by a teacher who was working at a school during the mid 1970s and into the 1980s.

I had been teaching for a couple of years after training college, teaching Mathematics up to O level standard in a mixed comprehensive school in the West Midlands when an opportunity back near my hometown came up. It wasn’t that I didn’t enjoy my current job, but the school had employed quite a few new teachers during a period of transition, and I saw my path to progress was likely to be blocked for some while. The school was a decent standard and was doing its best to improve in all areas, including education, sports, facilities and discipline. The headmaster had been in place for three years prior to my arrival and the governors had supported his plans to have a tougher line on the use of corporal punishment. It was not excessive by any means but the use of the both plimsoll and cane were increased by several hundred percentage, albeit from a low basis. As a new teacher I wasn’t permitted to administer any physical punishment during my first two years but ironically I was due to be authorised to do so in my third year if I hadn’t handed in my notice.

Since college, I had lived away from home in a shared rented house and my starting wages left little room for much at all. A move back home, meant I could move back in with parents and save a fortune that would eventually allow me to buy my own place. I knew of the school that I was to be working from my own schooldays through sports, and had played there many times in various activities. It was larger than my previous school with over 1000 pupils. The catchment area was mostly private housing and most families who sent their sons and daughters there were of reasonable means. I learnt on my training day that I would be the form teacher of a first year group, which was pleasing as it meant they didn’t know more about the school than me. At this school there was a headmaster who had two deputies, one male and one female. Corporal punishment was used here, with boys receiving either cane or plimsoll, and the girls mostly receiving the plimsoll. I was told that girls could be caned but it hadn’t been necessary in the last five years. I would not be authorised to use it on either gender but could refer a pupil to a senior teacher who would carry it out if I wished them to. At the time I was very indifferent about corporal punishment. I’d experienced it myself growing up and whilst I hated getting it, I knew that it acted as a good deterrent for the majority of pupils in my school and was a big part of the good order that our school knew. As a new teacher at the school I confidently expected that I wouldn’t need to send anyone off with what was known by the kids as a “whacking note”.

However that soon changed, as I realised that I needed to make it known that I wouldn’t stand for any nonsense, and it was only a few weeks into the term when a third year class, wouldn’t respond to my threats, so I sent three boys and a girl to respective senior teachers and told them to explain why they had been sent. About twenty minutes later, the three boys returned within a minute or so of each other, looking less confident and apologised to me. I didn’t ask what had happened, but some of the other lads did and I heard the response of “slipper, six hard ones”. The girl however didn’t return during the remainder of my class. I learnt during break time that she was a frequent visitor for such purposes and the teacher I’d sent her to had decided that a visit to the deputy headmistress was needed. Consequently she received six smacks with the plimsoll on her bottom and was also told to seek me out and apologise. When she did find me, it was at least an hour after I’d sent her out of class, but she was still crying. It would be fair to say that subsequent lessons with that group were fair easier to manage, and so it was that my attitude to the use of corporal punishment changed overnight.

Over the next two years I sent a few boys and a small number of girls off to teachers to receive corporal punishment, and I became rather blasé about the whole thing. It was just the way that the school operated, and all the pupils and staff knew that.

It was in the summer term of my first year, that I got to witness a girl receiving punishment. She was in my tutor group, and had been caught forging a note to say why she’d missed school. It was her housemistress, who had been alerted by the secretaries office that the letter was a forgery, and I was called in to offer my opinion of the girl's overall behaviour. I had to admit it was out of character, as she’d presented no problems to any of her teachers so far.

She was called into the office midway through a lesson and asked to explain why she’d missed school, and given lots of opportunities to say if there was a problem, but she said nothing in mitigation. Mrs Davies told her she had no option but to use corporal punishment and explained what that meant, which brought immediate tears to the girls eyes. Then came the moment. She was told to bend over the desk and stretch as far as she could. She could just reach the other side on tiptoes.

Mrs Davies went to a cupboard and took out a white plimsoll, probably about size 5, and without warning brought it down across the girls skirt very hard. There was a scream and she went to rise but was pushed back down. Mrs Davies kept one hand on the girl's back to keep her down and then gave two more lighter smacks in quick succession. That was it, over and down in less than a minute, but remembered for a lifetime by me and probably by the girl as well. She was soon on her way back to class, crying, and I returned to the staff room soon after.

I retired from teaching in 2003 but during my time there were lots of incidents to tell you about in due course.
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ArishMell · 70-79, M
Just re-read your story in the light of looking at some old school Mathematics text-books I have.

In one or two the topics and examples appeared to reflect what careers pupils were expected to aim for; and those were not in valuable areas like science, engineering, medicine or teaching (though perhaps in accounts departments serving those).

Instead the sizeable chapters on percentages and money-sums indicated the bright clever ones should become City hangers-on trading money and shares!
Justme264 · 70-79, M
This reflects very well how teaching and discipline was in my school in the late 60'and early 70's... Very much how I remember that time!
Peter85 · 36-40, M
@Justme264 I wish I was in school then
Scouser · 36-40, M
Peter85 · 36-40, M
Peter85 · 36-40, M
U are amazing
ArishMell · 70-79, M
My school in the early to mid 1960s, an LEA Grammar of similar size, did use corporal punishment but it seemed to have been a very rare last resort.

I think I knew of only about four boys having the cane - twice for one of them - and I don't know about any girls being punished physically. Though the "playground samizdat" tends to spread only your own Year's gossip, so there were probably other instances.

Our PE teacher used the plimsoll but only very rarely and moderately. I saw this happen only twice in five years of one PE and one Games class a week, combining the boys from two forms at a time. Perhaps the threat was enough!

Detentions and written impositions were the much more common punishments; the former more effective still for a pupil barred by the detention from some after-school club on the same afternoon.

Yet on the whole, behaviour was good. None of us were little angels but I think the secret was mutual respect rather than fear.


When you read many of the accounts on SW it's clear that many parents especially, and some teachers, thought "respect" is gained only by terror of "discipline" that means only bullying and brutal physical assault. I have often wondered why so many parents were so cruel, often far crueller than even the worst head-teachers using their flog-'em-and-hang-'em mentality to hide their own ineptitude. I think though some probably were sadists anyway, most simply resented the burden of children they could not avoid producing.

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Whether corporal punishment being so common in my "yoof" inspired my interest in the theme as erotic adult games, I cannot say for sure but I trace its subconscious seed to witnessing an incident in Infants' School! Nevertheless I oppose all real physical punishment, of anyone, by anyone for any reason - and I abhor violence anyway. I used to buy a contact magazine on the subject, whose editors made clear their own opposition to real corporal punishment.

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You were a Maths teacher? Oh to have been taught Mathematics by you or anyone else, rather than the two who ensured I failed in what was my weakest subject anyway!

Our Third-Form teacher was in his last year before retiring, and probably so bored with teaching unwilling adolescents how to work out (x+y)(x-y) for no apparent purpose*, he made the whole subject dull and incomprehensible.

While the Fourth & Fifth Year teacher, up to the O-Level exams, was an arrogant bombast interested in helping only the bright, keen ones. He had the nerve to write on my Report that I had basic weaknesses in my knowledge that need addressing - but he had never offered to help me and worse, deterred me from asking for help.

Incidentally, his real name was Hill but he was known behind his back by all and sundry as "Drasher", apparently coined by his sports-club in his cricket-playing younger days. No-one had a clue why! There is though a story that he once stood on Adolf Hitler's toe - by accident (presumably), when introduced to The Furhrer at a European youth athletics competition held in London in the 1930s.

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* I have just tried it!

I think (x+y)(x-y) = [ x^2 - 2xy - y^2 ]

but I had to use algebraic long-multiplication, it's probably wrong, and it's not something I've ever knowingly needed.

Though I do now wish I had been good at Hard Sums, and over the years since I have often used professionally and in my hobbies, geometry and trigonometry, pi, graphs and basic algebra; eventually learnt what dy/dx means by a strange chance encounter, and unexpectedly needed to understand logarithms for more than times-sums!

(Oh, I still have and can use, my log tables and slide-rule.)
Dez580 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell I do remember being issued with a Vodaphone Transportable mobile in 1985 i think, it was the size of two bricks. My work was mostly number crunching on a massive scle and spotting sequences. Colleagues used Sun Microsystemes , and we had redundant Apricot, Hoskins, Honeywell Bull systems, which we also used, kept going by our large computer support team, though our Keinzle Minicomputer using round papercard discs was retired in the 80s
ArishMell · 70-79, M
@Dez580 Well, Vodaphone did call it "Transportable" rather than just "Portable"! :-)

I've not seen card discs but I once found some 8" floppy discs of more conventional type, for a long-gone PC! I'd never seen that size anywhere else.

That Amstrad used 3" floppy discs, but of course that size and its CPM operating system are not compatible with other makes. When I needed a lot of documents I'd written transposed by a friend to, I think, his Apple computer, a mutual acquaintance who had a dual-size disc-reader transferred the work as plain-text files.
Dez580 · 61-69, M
@ArishMell my apple IIg had floppies and used a cassette deck back up, very well built computer, its up in the loft these days
OldBrit · 61-69, M
I went to school in the 70s. In 74 I went to a grammar school but in 75 that merged with the local high school to become a bilateral comprehensive. 1100 boys 11 to 18.

I never received corporal punishment. I'm the youngest of three. My mother early in my siblings secondary school lives had riled against its use. She joined a national campaign to get it banned, she met with Barbara Castle at one point. Anyway no teacher dared suggest it for me as they feared my mother's wrath so much.

I had a few detentions and suspensions over my school career but never corporal punishment.
olderuncle944 · 70-79, M
I was paddled in school a few times but they didnt use a cane our football coach paddled to boys if the offense was justified other wist the teach would talk us in the hall way have another teach watch the process .I also did the same as my kids
I think thats when i became a dominate and paddled you wife some times .
mainvane · 61-69, M
Interesting Karene,
Speaking of teachers, I had a crush on my 8th grade math teacher, Mrs. Griffin. She had beautiful, pre-maturely silver hair for a fit, 50 year old. Loved her well structured body and heart-shaped face .. she was quite well stacked, perhaps her finest attribute. I'd fantasize about her on the occasions I was home, pleasuring myself Teachers do have an impact on their students.
gandalf1957 · 61-69, M
I was hoping for more anecdotes ....
Royrogers · 61-69, M
Very good Karene. Hopefully a part 2
Dez580 · 61-69, M
a very interesting account and one which i recognised many traits in my own experiences
Dez580 · 61-69, M
Thank you for a most interesting acvount that rang true with me on many counts
Is Karene the plural of Karen?
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Scouser · 36-40, M
Karene · 61-69, F
@Scouser is that omg good or bad?
Scouser · 36-40, M
@Karene omg good miss
Justme264 · 70-79, M
Do tell please!
Tradcp · 56-60, M
Interesting
HotPizza71 · 51-55, M
Heard them all already on here 👍😝

 
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