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Do good men exists?

Most of my experiences with men were bad. Most men seem egoistic type who come in my life who tend to abuse, betray , put me down or be emotionally unavailable. Do any other women have, good experiences with men who treat them good? Sometimes all my experiences make me question the existance of good men, sometimes i feel are all men pretending and men only want to suppress, feel superior, control or use women.

Maybe i am bad at judging men or choosing men who are bad and good. Idk what i am doing wrong
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Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
Maybe you are making the wrong choice and entering into a relationship too quickly
Ever thought of that ?
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@Strictmichael75 I think i did trusted people early bcuz of my loneliness and naivety. Weird thing is only bad type people show me any attention, good ones don't come in my life that much or at all and even if meet, they seem very picky, maybe bad ones come in everyone's life more.Bad ones were good at pretending to be overly nice and supportive. I don't beleive overly nice people now. Now i want to check red and green flags before allowing anyone in my life.
@sahi81 There are good people and they will come to you but it's hard. So we learn from experience about people. You should visit social centres , institutions, or public spaces like libraries. How do you generally socialise in your city?
666Maggotz · F
@Strictmichael75 “it’s everyone’s fault but the man”
Strictmichael75 · 61-69, M
@666Maggotz Why do you say that ?
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sahi81 · 22-25, F
@littlepuppywantanewlife college, neighbors ( most bad perverted neighbor men tend to speak to me) and online i come across men.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@littlepuppywantanewlife i don't talk to men much tbh, i think i need to socialize and get to know men in decent places
@sahi81 I understand the situation I believe. Maybe find men or people to interact with in places where you get respect. Depends on which university or college you are graduating from. Do they have science fare or such activities?.

About neighborhoods don't mind them. You need to be in a better environment. On internet you can find men to talk with. But be always aware. What are your hobbies?
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@666Maggotz society coddles women too, just in different ways. It's not about men or women, both have own flaws, we have overcome them,. i met many emotionally immature/abusive women and society makes excuses for them saying they r women, let them be and don't take abuse by women seriously saying they r just women. I have seen many women taking side of bad behavioured men and blaming other women.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@littlepuppywantanewlife rn i don't have any hobbies and also i am busy trying to leave this place, i don't feel safe in the place i live in sometimes. i already gratudated and trying to look for masters in other place.
666Maggotz · F
@sahi81 women are forced to grow up very young while the same behavior is covered with “boys will be boys”. Give us examples how society coddles women.

Statistically speaking, most abusers are men. 🤷‍♀ using the minority of cases doesn’t help your point at all.
@sahi81 you should start taking hobbies or start adding up activities and learning skills. I try now but I wish I could start at an early age but life is difficult sometimes.

What do you mean you want to leave this place? Do you live in a place where crime is more?
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@666Maggotz i agree men tend to be more aggressive. I think women are also resposnible for how men r raised. Women tend to tolerate bad behaviuors of men until it gets worse and worse bcuz women were dependent on men and if the man does something they make excuses for men bcuz family is dependent on men . Our society is recently coming out of male-dominance. There r many reasons for all this. But it's better we not generalize men without knowing them well. Women mostly abuse in covert ways, more emotional or spreading rumors or making men do bad things to other women.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@littlepuppywantanewlife i think u can start at any age if u like the activities u do. I can understand life can get busy sometimes. By leaving my place means, i want to go to more developed, educated and safer place than where i live.
666Maggotz · F
@sahi81 it’s not women’s fault they’re dependent on men. It was forced upon us for centuries. They literally used the law and threat of physical violence to prevent us from having equality.

I think it’s best we call out these behaviors so men that are growing up know that it will no longer be tolerated. If they take it personally, then that’s on them. They’ll only complain when they know it probably applies to them. If they’re true allies to women, they would also point out the toxic behavior.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@666Maggotz i seen some men point out bad behaviours on other men. and some men don't point out even if they themselves don't engage in such behaviours, no idea why, maybe they r scared. and many men ( maybe bad ones come in women's life more or more visible unlike decent ones) even encourage bad behaviours of men and most of society tolerate saying "men will be men". Everyone are different. I think most people show apathy to such issues unless it happens to them. As an women, all i can do is, be independent, many men tried to drag me down many times tbh. I agree, as society we need to stop being tolerant of bad behaviors of men and put consequences of men. I always thoughtt if any guy even passes any comments on any women, his half salary must be cut and be donated to women's safety or protection lol. I think bad men start by passing comments and get away with it and later do something even badder.
in10RjFox · M
@666Maggotz wonderfully said. Women were made weaker by just calling them as weaker sex, which is also gaslighting. Another way is by unduly protecting them making them feel like a child, which is actually depriving of their own self confidence. Casual statements must also be brought under gaslighting and even women too are experts in gaslighting other women.
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@in10RjFox i think men whoever make women feel depedent on them financially, emotionally, mentally, physically, etc are never good men !
in10RjFox · M
@sahi81 it's not who is good or bad here , but the mentality. Infact it's they who are dependent and insecure, so they try to buy the woman with money as they have no other charming skill
sahi81 · 22-25, F
@in10RjFox instead of taking action on bad men who perpetrate on women, men try to protect women. I mean what logic is this? Why women even need protection if bad men are in jail? one bad men can abuse many women. Why not take action on 1 bad guy instead of protecting 100 women?
in10RjFox · M
@sahi81 That's revenge attitude and slander to say most men are bad as even many women have the same attitude on protecting other women. Younger boys too suffer the same from older girls.

So what girls must do is to become superior and also start to treat the boys and men who they consider as domineering, as dependants to make them feel inferior.

World can change if girls start confronting boys and men in a confident manner. Traditionally they are made to put their head down and not argue or ask questions etc. So girls must start walking head up , go near guys instead of walking around or avoiding, smile directly on their face, greet with a smile etc.

This can not only boost self confidence but subdue the guys. Instead of accepting surprise gifts, it must be returned as Bribes not Acceptable.

Starting to handle issues directly without complaining to others or involving others, can change the landscape.
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