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Why does there have to be sooo many rules in trying to date or get a guys attention?

I used to hear that guys like women making the first moves, nowdays I keep hearing that the woman is not supposed to make first moves or to even show much interest. And I read all this stuff about how you're not supposed to text or reach out first, let them come to you, let them plan dates and everything else. And it does seem anytime I want to go do something on MY time. The guy never wants to, sometimes I have to wait weeks or months to hear back from a guy too. It just seems like pulling arms and legs to try to get things going. Why do we girls have to just wait for the guy in every situation??
Adogslife · 61-69, M
That’s horrible advise you’re reading, and quite untrue.

Men are (generally speaking) thrilled when a woman makes the first move. If you want to go out, just say when and where.

If a guy takes more than a couple days to get back to you, he’s just not interested. If he’s taking months, he’s in a rut and contacting you to break the boredom. It’s not a good sign. You’re not present in his daily thoughts like you should be.
Musicman · 61-69, M
@Adogslife Exactly! I fully agree with you.
Lol…… stop reading so much and just do what you want.
candycane · 31-35, F
@OlderSometimesWiser that's what I was gonna say👍
Onasander · 41-45, M
Most relationships attempts are near misses. I really don't ask women out anymore, but since joining this site I started recalling a number of women interested in me that I just let slip by over the years as I slipped increasingly into isolation.

Some just weren't my type (too slutty, pushy in trying to get me, just looking for a one night stand, way too friendly with other guys infront of me), but usually it was because we lacked a romantic component or friendship that I let it go. It's something that needs to be established first before I jump into a dating scenerio where I'm comfortable.

I'd be perfectly okay with the idea of a woman asking me out. Just I'm uncomfortable with a strange woman asking me out, asking all sorts of HR like questions over a expensive dinner and then who knows what. If a woman knows me then she would already know what I would like to do and even better, what I wouldn't want to do. A example of a really bad date night for me:

Cook me shrimp alfredo with white sauce (this actually happened to me, I kept sweating and had to get up to puke a few times while smiling a big fake smile in between while eating it).

Then we go to see a play (good), Hamilton (bad, might as well be the Vagina Monologue).

Take me out to a bar to get me drunk (I don't drink, I'm a member kf the prohibition party).

So many ways for that to go wrong. And I agree women have to put up with that, but they seem to accept it in exchange for getting free meals and entertainment and romance. Heck, women just sit in bars and let obnoxious men they won't ever sleep with buy them drinks, so clearly the female brain works differently here. But if it was a woman who knew me, I'd be more trusting and would probably be okay with a surprise date set up. Blindfold me and bring me places.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
You’re no stranger to love.
You know the rules,and so do I.
@MrBrownstone Now don’t go Rickrolling the poor woman.
MrBrownstone · 46-50, M
@OlderSometimesWiser I’m just telling you what I’m feeling.
@MrBrownstone That’s beautiful man.

KingofBones1 · 46-50, M
That's b******* I actually prefer a woman to make the first move because then I know she's genuinely interested after all the life experience I've had I do not chase women anymore if it is meant to be it comes to me otherwise I'll just stay put
Aysel · F
I believe you are confused. In the past, males initiated contact 90% of the time, but in the present, women initiate contact more frequently than in the past.
So, I keep hoping to hear from a friend, her making a play date for our kids. I know it isn't romantic, I just feel awkward being the one to initiate it every time
GuyWithOpinions · 31-35, M
There are no rules. Just be your self.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
People worry too much about how others do things, do what you want 🤷🏾‍♂️

 
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