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I Lost My Religion

i stopped going to church since 7 months ago. today i found that i was removed from the whatsapp grp of a cell grp i once joined there.

i removed myself from 3 other church related grps.

i wanted to leave those whatsapp grps since i left the church but was just too embarrassed to do so and lest i would affect other people s faith. now by being removed and removing myself, i should close this "trying to seek direction for life from religions" chapter and start a new life with a clear mind.

you dont need to be a believer of a religion to be a good, ethical and wise person.

there has been some discomfort meeting ex acquaintances from church, both from me and from them, i can see. people perhaps see me as a traitor. but after some time, i act pretty much like back to normal; they may perhaps still feel embarrassed. it always seems to me that, the so called love from christianity stops outside church, and especially excluding quitters.

i cannot care. i remind myself to have the courage to be disgusted. no one could be liked by everyone. and i dont believe there is a place where everyone likes everyone equally; i used to believe that naively but of course now i dont, it will never work, the world never works like that, in any grps in the world.

it s my life and it s great to control and accept myself. it s great to spend my free time the way i find meaningful, rather than confronting with people who demand and request too much from you because they have the authority, whose orders and decision i cannot agree with. i dont feel blessed working for other bosses after work. there are always people who think if they have good intention then everything they do is right. it s sick.

blessed was i being enlightened and took the courage to quit and decide for my own life.

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to my ex-aquaintances from church: just as i respect your religion, please respect my choice to quit and what (not) to believe.
novembermoon · 51-55
My dear fren, I understand what you say about church. I was there once. It was a journey of a number of years. I can still remember some of those things said in cell group. Once I remarked that the Taj Mahal is beautiful and the whole group fell silent. I thought I had said something blasphemous. I had to qualify that the beauty I see in its architecture does not mean I would like more mosques to be built.
Another time, I had applied to leave the country to work in HK and was advised by the pastor against it. When I came back, the cell leader told me that if I wished to rejoin the cell, I had to show commitment, because they will not pander to the 'lowest denominator'.

I have had it with organised religion. Of course church is not perfect. Neither am I. I have enjoyed the fellowship of kind church brothers and sisters. It is a nice community. But I have also seen how restrictive and narrow it is. In such a competitive society like ours, I am already tired. I don't think I want to compete and prove myself worthy to enter the pearly gates of the church or cell group.
Absolutely I agree.
Sssslm · F
@novembermoon my experience: they appear friendly with purpose. before you join they appear friendly, after you have joined for a while, they become forceful and the way they speak doesn't have much wisdom because they suppose you have already submitted and have turned a sheep/slave thus would follow their order anyway. It s all lies and power game.
My father was a pastor @Sssslm. He didn't believe he was teaching lies, nor do I. Keep searching, S.
My Dad (a Baptist non-Bible-thumping man who loved God and people too) used to say, 'Going to church doesn't make you behave like a Christian anymore than going to a farm makes you behave like a cow.'

I am saddened when a thinker leaves a church - any church - because they are needed there as they are needed everywhere, Notice I did not say 'welcomed' although they should be.
Cierzo · M
There is one thing I am sure about religion:it is a personal thing.

I have hated religion for many years because I could not stand church people behaving like sheep, having to follow rules about to behave in their private and public life, and even telling then which political views are more 'suitable'.

I follow the Christian message to a large extent (although there is a part of it that I admit makes me cringe, the universalism and being too soft with enemies), and realise how important its Christian roots are for my country, but organised religion is only one of the many ways to God, not better than taking a walk in nature and gazing at its wonders, for instance. And keeping and loving God in your heart has nothing to do with having to keep a certain public persona.
Sssslm · F
Yet people at church insist that Christians should go to church, quote the bible saying that meeting on earth must be continued, and that 3 people would make a group. And they say that you cannot say you are a true Christian without going to church because your self study and interpretation could be wrong.

Believing in this religion doesn't make them wiser. They are living anti-thesis of religion.
This is not how I was taught to be as a Christian. Different churches, it seems. @Sssslm
Lonesomewolf2018 · 26-30, M
My friend, that is not how you become a Christian, you have to know Jesus and vice versa. I can go to any church but not knowing Christ and do what he tells me then that would just make me religious.
I will not argue with you, I have had similar experiences myself.

I no longer concentrate on religion, but on faith.

Throughout history the cause of faith has suffered because of religion, in my opinion. Because once you have a group of humans theoretically trying to accomplish something holy, then you have a political organization and things can, although they don't always, get messy.

I am sorry you were hurt and I am glad you feel better.

Just remember, church members may try and fail or they may fail without trying to live as we are directed. I myself have stumbled a few thousand times.
flimflam · M
I have no faith and I think there is no God and I'm well aware that I can't prove that anymore than the existence can be proven. I don't try to inflict my thoughts on others, though I am of course happy to discuss them, I hope politely and with an open mind.

Whether or not you have lost your faith and spirituality, or you have simply moved away from the (IMHO) POISONING CONTROL of organised religion and retain your belief in God; what you have done is allowed your mind to question and consider that not every word 'written' is truth and that even if it is, the interpretation may be flawed.

Believe what you like.
Behave like a good person. Every faith has the same basic rules about how you should be to others in life although some are outdated and ultimately were written by frightened, naive, selfish, controlling men. You'll know the ones that should be discarded. You'll know the ones that are naturally fair and right.

Have faith in YOURSELF and let your kindness decide what you should do.

Enjoy all the hours you've got back from all that churchgoing. Use them well. X

Congratulations, you're now free.
People believe what they believe, and when they believe they have the answer and you chose to reject it, its uncomfortable, especially in religions that say to share the good news and/or not to stumble a brother or sister. I hope even though you're done with religion you haven't given up on God. 🙂 I pray he helps you find the right path.

I don't like the same people equally. But love can overcome a lot.

By the way. I love the Lord. It's Christians I sometimes can't stand. 🤣
Peace777 · 51-55, F
Have no religion or have religion, as long as you become good people it's better than those who have religion but keep doing bad things.
People like that actually have also left their religion.
What kind of God love injustice and badness?
🤔
flimflam · M
@Peace777 yes. Only one thing worse are the ones who do bad things in the NAME of their religion.

Most churches have had moments like this so I'm not pointing fingers. X

The crusades, the spanish inquisition, the reformation, basically everything bad that ever happened in the middle East, the Holocaust, Magdalene Asylum Laundries,

We continue to this day in the UK with the refusal to accept euthanasia as a basic human right. Or the failure to accept birth control (before and after the fact) in the Catholic faith in Ireland.

Countless examples.

☹️
Silentangel · 26-30, F
Well said I tried joining a new church and I was never accepted because I was an outsider
You're so cool to me @Mamapolo2016.
@KayraJordyn I am growing very fond of you, too, Kayra. And that's one of the instructions.

Smiley faces are like phone menus. They never have the one I want.
Haha!
suzie1960 · 61-69, F
I turned my back on christianity years ago, after I saw through all its lies and deceit. It wasn't easy, I was pestered and even threatened by christians "trying to help me" for a long while after I left. Now you've made the break you'll find it gets easier with time. Good luck.

 
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