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I Dont Go to Church

Over the past few years, I can assure you that I’ve lost all kinds of faith in te church. I don’t believe in anything they preach anymore, I guess I never have, but because of the pressure to please my family, I forced myself to attend Sunday mass, but I am done guiding my life the way others believe I should, I am done guiding my life the way a book written thousands of years ago tells me to do. From now on, it’s my life, and nobody else’s.
Don’t get me wrong, I believe in a higher being by all means, but I am no allowing someone’s religion and beliefs be pushed upon me any longer. I believe in god, but in my own way, in my heart.
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MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
And what if God reaches people through religion?
stained · 13-15, M
@MartinTheFirst God is inside not outside.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@stained That's a very poor hypothesis grounded on nothing. We have the entire Bible that has proven to withstand the trial of time after nearly 3500 years. The prophets and kings spoken of can be proven that they did exist and spoke what was said.

What I am saying is that not all religions are correct, but religion is clearly the only possible way we have where we want to get closer to God in this physical world besides just a "feeling" that he's there.
stained · 13-15, M
@MartinTheFirst So your faith is in religion ,not God. Thinking like that is what is driving people away from religion in droves.For me that Feeling is faith and i believe i'm closer to God than you are.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@stained So you think one should just "hope" and "feel" that God is there? I believe we can expect a lot more from God, and [b]that[/b] is true reason to believe in him. What he has done for us and promised us (relayed to us in a message that comes with religion) is that reason.
stained · 13-15, M
@MartinTheFirst I don't expect anything from God ,I'm not that Conceited.No i don't hope and feel ,i know. Apparently you can't say the same. You need a dog and pony show and a book of fairy tales .
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@stained your "knowing" is but a feeling, since you have nothing to go on.
stained · 13-15, M
@MartinTheFirst So it's not about believing in God ,but about believing what you believe. You have even less to go on.I see God in my life and my world everyday you only see what your told to see.
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@stained It is great that you feel like you see it, but once again, you need something more than that.
stained · 13-15, M
@MartinTheFirst This is crazy!!! If i had jumped in here and said i don't believe in God you would argue to the death ,i'm saying i do believe and your reacting as if i said there is no God ! What difference does it make how i get there if i end up in the same place!I find this happens a lot with people who believe it's all about the bible and religion,my belief is pure and i came to it all on my own as God intended.You can't find God in a book written by men
MartinTheFirst · 26-30, M
@stained You don't know me, you don't know what or what I wouldn't do. The difference is that a feeling doesn't last very long, while evidence and history does last.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@stained It seems like you are saying you believe in a relationship because YOU feel it and YOU plan to follow your own interests because that feels good and feels right and the person in the relationship with you should stand up and applaud you because you reached the conclusion there is a relationship. That seems pretty one-sided, ignores the basis for any "real" relationship, and focuses only on what is entirely convenient for you despite, like what Martin said, a 3500 year time-tested proven record.

It seems what you say you want and what you are doing to achieve what you claim you want are out of sync.
stained · 13-15, M
@MarkPaul You people just can't seem handle the fact that i believe in God without needing religion .It's like i said you want to argue even though i believe in God. If as martin says you need evidence then your an agnostic can't believe without a book or a dogma . I don't need proof ,it's all around me.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@stained You want to make your own rules, conditions, and evidence. You have the free will to pursue that. But, that's not a relationship. It's a one-sided love affair with yourself.
stained · 13-15, M
@MarkPaul What does it matter to you ?Are you frightened by any thoughts other than those you've been programmed to think? My responses here have been calm and logical ,while responses to me have been littered with thinly veiled insults,which seems more christian to you ?
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@stained Dude, when you praise yourself you lose mostly all credibility. I understand YOU think you're being smart, calm, and logical, but it's obvious that's just a mask. I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just pointing out that what you claim and what you are doing are diametrically opposed. Why do you think you are above critique?
stained · 13-15, M
@MarkPaul Face it your not a christian person you say one thing then do the opposite .Hypocrite . Go read your bible seems like you think your the only one with the answer. A mask? You act all holier than thou but your one of the most argumentative people on this site with a penchant for picking on girls from what i have seen.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@stained You don't know anything about me and your crazy-ass assumptions only suggest how lost you really are.

It seems like you can use some guidance and direction.
stained · 13-15, M
@MarkPaul I have seen you attack for the most part girls in post after post .Doesn't your book tell you to treat others the way you want to be treated? Why am i the enemy i'm not arguing that your god doesn't exist ,yet you still insist on treating me like your better than me .Get a life dude.
MarkPaul · 26-30, M
@stained I have no idea what you are talking about. You have lied, you've been disrespectful, and you have falsely accused me. Religion might be just what you need.
stained · 13-15, M
@MarkPaul [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXX_APphyY]