I will be stubborn!
I refuse to belong to any religion
If i go to hell for being a good kind hearted person so be it!
If i go to hell for being a good kind hearted person so be it!
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OriginalDumbMan · 36-40
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@OriginalDumbMan No one passes the "good person" test, since we're all sinners. That's why we all need God's plan for salvation, which is from Jesus Christ the Lord and Savior.
So not joining a religion is not the cause of ending up in hell (i.e. not being saved). It's our sins that are not addressed by the Savior.
So not joining a religion is not the cause of ending up in hell (i.e. not being saved). It's our sins that are not addressed by the Savior.
@SW-User it's more like wanting to know God.
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@Husher Understood.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
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In the biblical fairytale no one spends eternity in hell. You must be thinking about the Islamic hell. Know your hells.
That’s not why you go to hell, and you don’t actually want to go there.. for all eternity.
In the biblical fairytale no one spends eternity in hell. You must be thinking about the Islamic hell. Know your hells.
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@Diotrephes I'm sorry, you got that wrong. Better get back to reading.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
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May I refer you to Revelation 20:10-15 (1599 Geneva Bible GNV) = "10 [a]And the devil that deceived them, was cast into a lake of fire and brimstone, where that beast and that false prophet are, and shall be tormented even day and night for evermore.
11 [b]And I saw a great [c]white throne, and one that sat on it, [d]from whose face fled away both the earth and heaven, and their place was no more found.
12 And I saw the dead, both great and small stand before [e]God: and the [f]books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book [g]of life, and the dead were judged of those things, which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 [h]And the sea gave up her dead, which were in her, and death and hell delivered up the dead, which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 [i]And death, and hell were cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire."
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Revelation 22:14-15 (ERV) = "14 “Great blessings belong to those who have washed their robes.[a] They will have the right to eat the food from the tree of life. They can go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside the city are all those who live like dogs—those who do evil magic, those who sin sexually, those who murder, those who worship idols, and those who love to lie and pretend to be good."
Notice that people whose names are not written in the book of like get tossed into the lake of fire, the second death. They do not go back to hell.
And notice that evil people whose names are written in the book of life get eternal life, but they can't enter the golden cube.
You should really read the fairytale.
In the Islamic versionn when people die they simply stay dead until Judgment Day. They are then resurrected and the good guys get their own paradises.
Most of the women go to hell but each guy will get 70 of them from hell and they will be virgins. He also gets 2 90 foot tall translucent women creatures and a herd of cute boys and an eternal erection. Children can also go to paradise. There's no mention of children getting into the biblical golden cube.
In the Islamic version if you end up in hell you will be tortured forever. You are most likely thinking about the Islamic hell when you think about hell.
In the Islamic hell everyone will also get eternal life. In the biblical hell your name must be written in the book of life to get eternal life and you can be an evil person and still get it. Conversely, you can be a "good" person and still get tossed into the lake of fire. So, know your hells.
I'm sorry, you got that wrong. Better get back to reading.
May I refer you to Revelation 20:10-15 (1599 Geneva Bible GNV) = "10 [a]And the devil that deceived them, was cast into a lake of fire and brimstone, where that beast and that false prophet are, and shall be tormented even day and night for evermore.
11 [b]And I saw a great [c]white throne, and one that sat on it, [d]from whose face fled away both the earth and heaven, and their place was no more found.
12 And I saw the dead, both great and small stand before [e]God: and the [f]books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book [g]of life, and the dead were judged of those things, which were written in the books, according to their works.
13 [h]And the sea gave up her dead, which were in her, and death and hell delivered up the dead, which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 [i]And death, and hell were cast into the lake of fire: this is the second death.
15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire."
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Revelation 22:14-15 (ERV) = "14 “Great blessings belong to those who have washed their robes.[a] They will have the right to eat the food from the tree of life. They can go through the gates into the city. 15 Outside the city are all those who live like dogs—those who do evil magic, those who sin sexually, those who murder, those who worship idols, and those who love to lie and pretend to be good."
Notice that people whose names are not written in the book of like get tossed into the lake of fire, the second death. They do not go back to hell.
And notice that evil people whose names are written in the book of life get eternal life, but they can't enter the golden cube.
You should really read the fairytale.
In the Islamic versionn when people die they simply stay dead until Judgment Day. They are then resurrected and the good guys get their own paradises.
Most of the women go to hell but each guy will get 70 of them from hell and they will be virgins. He also gets 2 90 foot tall translucent women creatures and a herd of cute boys and an eternal erection. Children can also go to paradise. There's no mention of children getting into the biblical golden cube.
In the Islamic version if you end up in hell you will be tortured forever. You are most likely thinking about the Islamic hell when you think about hell.
In the Islamic hell everyone will also get eternal life. In the biblical hell your name must be written in the book of life to get eternal life and you can be an evil person and still get it. Conversely, you can be a "good" person and still get tossed into the lake of fire. So, know your hells.
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@Diotrephes Your final conclusions are incorrect. I don't know much about Islamic hell, and it doesn't matter since I believe Islam is false.
You said you could get a good person tossed into hell, or a bad person written into the book of life. All that is incorrect.
1) There are no good persons - everyone is a sinner. No one is good. This is the first thing that shocks you when you finally get some understanding.
2) That's why you need salvation within the Lord's plan - through acceptance of the Savior
3) Everyone has eternal life... but it depends on where.
4) One's name in the Book of Life is God's judgment, not for us to say. Furthermore, it means that the Lord has provided you with the ability to accept his Son our Lord Jesus Christ for one's salvation.
5) So...everyone deserves punishment, but by accepting Christ one doesn't get what they deserve, they get mercy.
You said you could get a good person tossed into hell, or a bad person written into the book of life. All that is incorrect.
1) There are no good persons - everyone is a sinner. No one is good. This is the first thing that shocks you when you finally get some understanding.
2) That's why you need salvation within the Lord's plan - through acceptance of the Savior
3) Everyone has eternal life... but it depends on where.
4) One's name in the Book of Life is God's judgment, not for us to say. Furthermore, it means that the Lord has provided you with the ability to accept his Son our Lord Jesus Christ for one's salvation.
5) So...everyone deserves punishment, but by accepting Christ one doesn't get what they deserve, they get mercy.
Diotrephes · 70-79, M
@SW-User Well, if it works for you, enjoy it.