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jehova · 31-35, M
Into christian europe its usually fairly smooth transition. Into christian america it seems christianity somehow conflicts with islam and idk why it so often becomes hostile. Might it be because christianity is used to being the newest and so the more recent islam shakes things up too much for their liking?
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jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy ok and i have seen that at times i still dont understand why.
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jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy ok thanks for the breakdown. My perspective hasnt much changed though. We are descendant from? Samael and naomi prior to all three of these prophets. So lets fight about the descendants of those two originals whom each lived apart and took the message to the 'masses' in slightly different forms during different periods in different regions. Jews muslems and christians are thus all cousins.
As the irish would say, 'wanna fight about it?'
As the irish would say, 'wanna fight about it?'
SomeMichGuy · M
@jehova The god isn't actually the same, either; Islam had no Messiah. They accept Jesus as a teacher, but reject the teachings.
Allah was never moderated by the Good News.
Allah was never moderated by the Good News.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy and in time as the language changes perhaps it will? jews alledgedly havent their 'old testament' hasnt but the newer version has? and christians original i have no idea its been changed so many times.
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SomeMichGuy · M
@jehova Again, you are mixed up and wrong.
1) The Council of Nicea was in the 300s AD.
2) It didn't change the Bible.
3) The Roman church changed the Creed by adding the "filioque" clause, which precipitated the schism which split the sole Latin patriarch (the guy in Rome) from the Greek patriarchs.
4) There is a big difference between "there are lots of translations" and "the Bible was always being changed".
The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the transmission of the OT was essentially unchanged forna millenium. Advances in scholarship have yielded more ancient texts and informed translations make notes of this (the NRSV has great notes for alternate readings, and you can see for yourself that they make no substantive difference in the meaning).
The KJV is a poorer translation, to be sure.
And the NRSV has an updated edition, etc.
1) The Council of Nicea was in the 300s AD.
2) It didn't change the Bible.
3) The Roman church changed the Creed by adding the "filioque" clause, which precipitated the schism which split the sole Latin patriarch (the guy in Rome) from the Greek patriarchs.
4) There is a big difference between "there are lots of translations" and "the Bible was always being changed".
The Dead Sea Scrolls show that the transmission of the OT was essentially unchanged forna millenium. Advances in scholarship have yielded more ancient texts and informed translations make notes of this (the NRSV has great notes for alternate readings, and you can see for yourself that they make no substantive difference in the meaning).
The KJV is a poorer translation, to be sure.
And the NRSV has an updated edition, etc.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy any change is a change it lost its substance after 325ad in my opinion. Language itself changed thus any translation became in accurate. Scholorship nontwithstanding. I would only be willing to take the original version seriously. It was lost well before niceae so i will listen but am unwilling to read more recent renditions.
SomeMichGuy · M
@jehova You don't understand texts at all.
Or scholarship.
You probably think it was like the children's game of whispering a sentence to each other! lol
Or scholarship.
You probably think it was like the children's game of whispering a sentence to each other! lol
jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy no i know it was changed and manipulated translated to english. Etc. Was originally in hebrew by the way. Then latin after greek prior to aramyic therefore not interested.
SomeMichGuy · M
@jehova You don't understand any of this.
Get educated about it and then we'll talk.
An uneducated opinion isn't holding wster.
Get educated about it and then we'll talk.
An uneducated opinion isn't holding wster.
jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy and im not interested in learning greek or aramyic or hebrew so please have a good day.
SomeMichGuy · M
jehova · 31-35, M
@SomeMichGuy ah spelling another reason it might be inaccurate translations the human factor and hanwriting. Thus not interested.