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Jesus is Black?

I’m curious what Christians and Jews thoughts are on what Putin just revealed. Do you think it’s bullshit or do you have a black Jesus hanging up in your head now? Or is he still YT?
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Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom I doubt that my guy
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Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@Justice4All were they majority or minority of the world population?
SDavis · 56-60, F
Some say it's a lie Putin didn't say it.

But when you read the accounts of the Roman senator, and historian, lawyer Tacitus who lived in the first century AD _ compared the Jewish Christians to Ethiopians, though he compared them also to other nations - they all had to be dark skin woolly haired people simply because Ethiopia has is and always has been made up of dark skin woolly haired people and was in the comparison.

There is a portrait of a dark skin woolly haired Christ along with his disciples who are dark skin and woolly-haired in the Coptic Museum of Cairo Egypt painted supposedly in the second or third century AD.

And there is the Black Madonna though they have come up with reasonings to why the skin is dark and her hair is covered. She is still shown as a dark brown female with a dark brown child. To the Catholic Church she represents the Virgin Mary and the baby Jesus. A portrait which Constantine search for when he ruled Rome.

There are a few places in the Bible that indicates the Jews were dark skin people the one that stands out the most is Jesus was described as having feet like burnt brass in the King James version the newer versions has changed that to fine brass. Big, big difference in fine brass and burnt brass, burnt brass is almost black. And funny how they say his hair was white like wool, white as snow. Seems to me wool is the texture and colors and snow is the color.

But no matter how many discussions are done to the majority of the world Jesus being a black man is impossible.

And I have to add::: evolution / science _ according to evolution East Africa is where all humanoid life began - even the ancestor of the neanderthal. Recent reports say that the mutation that caused the change in skin color from dark to none pigmentated and eye color only happened as near as 10,000 years ago, compared to the 30,000 years ago as the accepted theory. According to science Adam and Eve were Back people.

Straight hair - anyone ever do a study on the Aborigines they have African looking people and I say African instead of negroid that's a white man's word - who are unmixed and have straight hair, blonde hair that has always occurred even the British used to kidnap their children just for scientific experiments up until the recent years 1960/70/80.

All the info is out there for any who care to research it.
SDavis · 56-60, F
@Heavenlywarrior I saw your comment and thought I'd tap in hope you don't mind.
Indeed the writing history all started in ancient Sumer concerning the Gods Anu _ Enlil _ and of course Enki.

Even scripture says that Abraham was from the land of Ur and Ur was a major city in ancient Sumer. That would make Abraham an offspring of the Sumerians.

And I'm not going to go into the Canaanites and Elohim and Melchizedek.
The original translators made a mess of it.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SDavis yeah exactly and I don’t mind. That according to the story is where it came from. The epics of Gilgamesh is also where I read some of it was taken from.
SDavis · 56-60, F
@Heavenlywarrior the Sumerian literature concerning the epic of Gilgamesh is one story - Noah's ark is another story.Then there are stories of an angry God destroying mankind and saving a few as well as - a few Native American Indians - various groups in Europe - various groups China -as well as countries in Africa.

https://sravisht.tripod.com/forum/text/text/mythfarworld_f.htm

https://www.meta-religion.com/World_Religions/Ancient_religions/Flood_myths/flood_myths_africa.htm
Sorry the links will not pull up.
SW-User
Not African black and not how catholics portray European white either. Well, I once had a dream of Him… His skin color was not white pink like white people, but sort of very deep gold or Gold-bronze or something like that
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SW-User so the truth of the matter is who we call “Jesus” demographically in the time of that period would look like all the inhabitants of the land and his name wouldn’t be Jesus in the human form.

We know that there is a saving spirit which many call Christ or Mashiach which is the living word that saves us. This spirit is in all who choose to overcome trials and grief, this saving spirit is not just called “Jesus” it’s not just called “Yeshua” or “Emmanuel” It is a spirit that appears to all in a form that they can receive salvation from their own circumstances.

This is what I mean when I say perception.

We know there is one truth. That truth is LIGHT.

The name Jesus saves because many believe in the idea of what we have now created and the energy behind that name.

But before Js existed in the world .. what name did people call on for salvation?
SDavis · 56-60, F
@Heavenlywarrior

the Hebrews, Israelites called upon the name Elohim / El / Yahweh. And whether the same God or fallen angels or other heavenly hosts worshipped, they all had names that people cultures around the world call them by.

Jesus says he is the light of the world.

In scripture of the Bible all of those entities are beings of light.

Indeed it is the spirit, God the Father is Spirit, oh no man has seen Jesus is Spirit the angels are Spirit who can or has physical form. Heck humans are spirits housed in flesh bodies.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SDavis true.. that’s kinda where I’m getting at… The Spirit behind the names we call on.
BRUUH · VIP
He was an ancient jew, so he probably looked like other ancient jews. In the Dura Europos synagouge, you have depictions of ancient jews by ancient jews, it has depictions of jews, most look brown skinned with black hair.

I do think it's highly possible that jesus had subsaharan african in him, as Jews were recorded to have mixed with black africans. Moses had an ethiopian wife (who was from Kush; the word ethiopian as it was translated is just from a greek word used to describe black folk). King Solomon had a black wife (in the song of solomon she literally says "I am black" she described solomon as "white and ruddy").
I do think the first gentile (or one of the first) to convert to christianity was black; the ehtiopian eunuch in the book of acts who Peter baptised.

As far as Jesus being Yt? Well he definitely wasn't white in the sense of white meaning European, tho he could have had light skin. In Lamentations, it describes the nazarites saying "Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:" Tho honestly, jesus wasn't ethnically from nazareth; his mom was from Galilee.

In short, probably not, but possibly. He probably looked like a safardic jew.
BRUUH · VIP
@calicuz Christ was not the most pure blooded Jew to have ever walked the Earth... he was literally called the son of David, who's progenitor was Ruth, a gentile woman from moab.
calicuz · 56-60, M
@BRUUH

Ah, so the scriptures are wrong, and Christ wasn't the Messiah who had to come from "the house of David" (blood line), who had to come from "the house of Adam" (blood line)?
BRUUH · VIP
@calicuz Yeah, he did come from the house of david... but David's mother was a moabite...
Iwillwait · M
Jesus was born in the Middle East, it only makes sense he is of that descent.
MasterLee · 56-60, M
Myths are any color, size, shape, race, anything.
Heathen.
Jesus is a white Mexican from Bethlehem
SW-User
Putin didn’t reveal anything new. I am Eastern/ Greek/Russian Orthodox and we have always had black icons and I even have them. Its just America only now found out I guess, that they exist in Orthodoxy and Russia is mostly all Orthodox. Here is a Russian artist painting a brown skinned Mary with Jesus Christ. All Greek Orthodox icons are like this and have been for at least a thousand years. [media=https://youtu.be/uKpBeJpYMwA]
He was Middle Eastern and resembled your average Israeli Jew or Palestinian Arab.
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@LeopoldBloom there may have been more darker than we are led to believe the mixing of nations were not as they were today
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Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
As far as “Jesus” I definitely there is a lot of fallacy in my opinion about the whole story. Could there have been a man or figure that was very learned from the culture of the so called “Israelites” nomad people that became a nation. Who was deep in mystery schools and learned about chi and energy manipulation … yeah I think so. Could he have been Dark skinned like an Egyptian yeah a high probability.

But lots of the stories are definitely allegories.representing deeper things within us.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
Pilot wrote that he was struck by Jesus because He (Jesus) had Golden hair. Strange that eh?
calicuz · 56-60, M
I'm pretty sure Christ was Black, but that still doesn't make him God. 🤷‍♂️
SW-User
...but at the end of the day its not His skin color is what matters for salvation but what He taught and following it. You can be right on point on Jesus s skin color and race and still go to hell 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️I don’t care whether He is of an African, European, American Indian or Chinese descent. If I found out that Jesus Christ was a black dude from Africa or something I don’t know, I would not run and look for a different god...a white god to suit my skin color 🤦‍♀️😄😄 So, who cares
Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@SW-User God is Spirit , energy. It’s ALL THINGS. But leaders come in many forms. It depends on bloodline. Let’s stick to Nature genetics and history of the indigenous peoples of certain lands that were whitewashed
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@hippyjoe1955 I think you put entirely too much faith on stories from a book that also has talking animals in it.
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hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
@goneNow6565 What makes you think I am relying on stories. I have experienced Jesus in ways you can not even imagine. I read Paul's letters and agree with them because he and I share common experiences.
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Heavenlywarrior · 36-40, M
@DeluxedEdition the demographics of that time don’t match reality of the people who inhabited the land back then. Majority of the world was white washed after the Roman Empire.
Moneyonmymind · 31-35, M
on the boondocks Huey seems to think he was

 
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