Muslims are closer to the teachings of Christianity? Menk visisted a christian school.
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BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
So the Christian values are now summarized in wearing beards and hijab? What a silly argument to make. We follow jesus because we have a beard! But I am not surprised. Religion focuses so much on the exterior, with such superficiality. The reason it does, is because religion is like a club. To be counted as one of its members, you need to wear the uniform, just like a football team. They see strength in looking alike, because they can single out those who dare to be a little different, and accuse them of not belonging. I've seen in my life so many women who do not wear hijab but are way conservative and religious than some who do. It is just a piece of cloth that can hardly give an indication of what's inside a person, but to you, it is following Mary. Pfft.
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BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@nightjourney I am not sure what's the point you are trying to make when you put ex in bold, can you clarify that?
Of course Islam has a lot of similarities with Christianity, where do you think Islam came from? One source is Christianity. I never denied that, so i am not sure what's your point again. I was merely responding to what's been said in the video, did you even see the video to be able to make sense of my comment?
The only reason Muslims don't mock jesus is because he is mentioned in their holy book, so they have to reapect him being PART OF THEIR BELIEFS. They do not respect him out of their respect for other religions, if this was the case, they would have respected everything else. But i see Muslims mocking others beliefs all the time and then they cry when someone does the same. Isn't it time we stopped playing the victim role?
Of course Islam has a lot of similarities with Christianity, where do you think Islam came from? One source is Christianity. I never denied that, so i am not sure what's your point again. I was merely responding to what's been said in the video, did you even see the video to be able to make sense of my comment?
The only reason Muslims don't mock jesus is because he is mentioned in their holy book, so they have to reapect him being PART OF THEIR BELIEFS. They do not respect him out of their respect for other religions, if this was the case, they would have respected everything else. But i see Muslims mocking others beliefs all the time and then they cry when someone does the same. Isn't it time we stopped playing the victim role?
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BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@nightjourney Who is them? Are you really that convinced that anyone who decides to leave religion, they must’ve had some ulterior motives other than the fact that religion simply no longer made sense?
Because you barely know me, so I’d like to know how did you infer such conclusions.
Well, you do NOT sicken me, because my lack of religion made me relate to the human in people as opposed to what they believe in. Unlike you, ans most believers, where religion drags them to disliking everyone else (but then they complain about how the rest of the world hates them)
I can go on and on about the mockery of other religions by Islam AND Muslims. But I will give you a simple example; you describe Christians and Jews in every single prayer, no actually in ever single rakat when you pray, as: ‘those who evoked the anger of god’ and “those who are astray”. If calling them as such in every prayer is not mockery and disrespect, I don’t know what is 🤷♀️
Because you barely know me, so I’d like to know how did you infer such conclusions.
Well, you do NOT sicken me, because my lack of religion made me relate to the human in people as opposed to what they believe in. Unlike you, ans most believers, where religion drags them to disliking everyone else (but then they complain about how the rest of the world hates them)
I can go on and on about the mockery of other religions by Islam AND Muslims. But I will give you a simple example; you describe Christians and Jews in every single prayer, no actually in ever single rakat when you pray, as: ‘those who evoked the anger of god’ and “those who are astray”. If calling them as such in every prayer is not mockery and disrespect, I don’t know what is 🤷♀️
@nightjourney Your total lack of empathy is not helping your cause.
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@nightjourney You're proving the point that many religious people believe more in the Devil than in a loving god. This character gives you the pretext to hate anyone you perceive as an outsider.
Maybe one day you'll realize that people can be beautiful when they are able to go beyond cliches and diktats.
Maybe one day you'll realize that people can be beautiful when they are able to go beyond cliches and diktats.
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@nightjourney Oh. That's really nice of you.
BittersweetPotato · 31-35, F
@nightjourney and how did you figure that I hate people who believe in something else or in religion? I mean, it is not me who believes in a holy book that calls people of other religions names. 🤷♀️ It is not me who is so obsessed with Christians and Jews that I have to call them astray in every single prayer.. it is not my holy book that says I cannot be friends with Christians and Jews... but yea yea, IT IS ME who hates people who have different beliefs, right?
Just because I criticise Islam, I must hate Muslims? Again, it is your problem that you are unable to distinguish Islam from Muslims, and that you are unable to comprehend that there is no such thing as divine subject that is not up for discussion. I have a post talking about Quran? And how is this any of your business? and the Arabic being my language, is this also insulting you or something that I speak Arabic but don't believe in Islam? Would you like me to change my native language, in order to not hurt the sensitive feelings of Muslims?
[quote]Arabic that is the language of the quran which is the religion of islam.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Arabic is not exactly the language of the Quran. The Quran is filled with syriac words, it is why Quran isn't an easy read for Arabs. I've always wondered as a kid why certain words were written certain way, well because they are not Arabic, they are Syriac 🤷♀️ You might wanna look this up, maybe you will learn something.
[quote]Why do muslims in particular bother you so? We can't eat pork? We can't have sex before marriage? Modesty? We can't drink?[/quote]
It amazes me how religion is always defined very superficially by its followers. Just like the man in the video, you also provided some superficial traits of Muslims. I'd like someone, for once, to give me deeper values of Muslims, like loving/honest/hard working/creative etc.. and prove it that this is how religion shaped them as such.. instead, you are convinced that I am so annoyed because you are sexually inactive 🤷♀️ Can you tell us how abstaining from sex and not eating pork helped the world? and why do you think people are jealous of you because. you don't eat pork and don't have sex? Why would anyone even care if you are sleeping with someone or not?
I will tell you. it is in what you mentioned;
[quote]All the things you want to do because you are too weak to obey these rules constructed for something you once were. [/quote]
Muslims are obsessed with sex, and they think everyone is. Ironically, Muslims always assume that people leave religion to have sex and drink alcohol.. and that unreligious people life is all about that and just that. Interestingly, I am yet to see someone unreligious bringing up the subject of sex or alcohol in any argument about religion. It is YOU who is obsessed with these subjects, it is you and by you I mean Muslims or believers who are so quick to talk about sex.. and not that it is any of your business, but I lost my faith end of 2013, and didn't have sex or had alcohol until 5 years later. I guess I wasn't dying to break the rules the minute I didn't believe, was I? On the other hand, there are many Muslims who believe in Islam, and also still have out of marriage sex and still drink, the only difference, is that they do it secretly ;) Hypocrisy at its best.
Just because I criticise Islam, I must hate Muslims? Again, it is your problem that you are unable to distinguish Islam from Muslims, and that you are unable to comprehend that there is no such thing as divine subject that is not up for discussion. I have a post talking about Quran? And how is this any of your business? and the Arabic being my language, is this also insulting you or something that I speak Arabic but don't believe in Islam? Would you like me to change my native language, in order to not hurt the sensitive feelings of Muslims?
[quote]Arabic that is the language of the quran which is the religion of islam.
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I hate to be the one to break it to you, but Arabic is not exactly the language of the Quran. The Quran is filled with syriac words, it is why Quran isn't an easy read for Arabs. I've always wondered as a kid why certain words were written certain way, well because they are not Arabic, they are Syriac 🤷♀️ You might wanna look this up, maybe you will learn something.
[quote]Why do muslims in particular bother you so? We can't eat pork? We can't have sex before marriage? Modesty? We can't drink?[/quote]
It amazes me how religion is always defined very superficially by its followers. Just like the man in the video, you also provided some superficial traits of Muslims. I'd like someone, for once, to give me deeper values of Muslims, like loving/honest/hard working/creative etc.. and prove it that this is how religion shaped them as such.. instead, you are convinced that I am so annoyed because you are sexually inactive 🤷♀️ Can you tell us how abstaining from sex and not eating pork helped the world? and why do you think people are jealous of you because. you don't eat pork and don't have sex? Why would anyone even care if you are sleeping with someone or not?
I will tell you. it is in what you mentioned;
[quote]All the things you want to do because you are too weak to obey these rules constructed for something you once were. [/quote]
Muslims are obsessed with sex, and they think everyone is. Ironically, Muslims always assume that people leave religion to have sex and drink alcohol.. and that unreligious people life is all about that and just that. Interestingly, I am yet to see someone unreligious bringing up the subject of sex or alcohol in any argument about religion. It is YOU who is obsessed with these subjects, it is you and by you I mean Muslims or believers who are so quick to talk about sex.. and not that it is any of your business, but I lost my faith end of 2013, and didn't have sex or had alcohol until 5 years later. I guess I wasn't dying to break the rules the minute I didn't believe, was I? On the other hand, there are many Muslims who believe in Islam, and also still have out of marriage sex and still drink, the only difference, is that they do it secretly ;) Hypocrisy at its best.
hippyjoe1955 · 61-69, M
@BittersweetPotato I only looked at being muslim for a very short time and can't speak to the depth of insight you have but one funny thing I noticed was how paradise was basically doing all the sensual things you not supposed do here and now. Somewhere it is mentioned that there is a river of wine.....