Question for the religious and non religious folks who...

always try convincing others of their faith or non faith.

If your faith is so strong, why do you care if others dont believe what you believe? Your beliefs should be untouchable and same goes to those who dont believe in religion, why do you care that others do believe in it and why try to prove their religion to be not real?

I am religious myself and could not care in the slightest if others dont believe in it. I dont understand the constant religious arguments and trying to prove its real or not real

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BlueVeins · 22-25

Religious beliefs inform people's moral values, which in turn heavily inform their politics. It's no coincidence that only about 18% of jehovah's witnesses support abortion rights, compared to 73% of the unaffiliated.

If your faith is so strong, why do you care if others dont believe what you believe? Your beliefs should be untouchable and same goes to those who dont believe in religion, why do you care that other do believe in it and why try to prove their religion to be not real?

I'm of the opinion that there's probably no god in the same way that there's probably no Bigfoot, but I'm not so entrenched in that view that I couldn't be swayed by a reasonable argument. In fact, I used to be a Christian before conversations with atheists and agnostics convinced me that Christianity is not a sound and evidence-based ideology.

Torsten · 36-40, M

@BlueVeins fair but so many twist their religion to match their true beliefs anyway, so I dont think religion is as much to blame for moral values but also at times it certainly can be reasonable to say so.

I get why so many would not believe in religion but not to believe in bigfoot is crazy to me haha. I reckon Bigfoot existed at one point. Maybe was a diff type of species that is not extinct or something but yeah that is just my thoughts anyway

BlueVeins · 22-25

@Torsten

fair but so many twist their religion to match their true beliefs anyway, so I dont think religion is as much to blame for moral values but also at times it certainly can be reasonable to say so.

I mean yeah, but that's infinitely easier if your morality is based on something that's completely immaterial. If someone says that gay people are bad bc they cause harm to the world, I can just refute the fallacious reasoning they're using. In that case, I'd have the high ground because the truth is on my side. If someone says gay people are bad bc god says it's bad, I can't really do much there bc it's their conception of God and isn't based on empirical evidence. Best I can hope for in that case is to debate their interpretation of their holy book, but at that point we're on even ground because no particular interpretation can be proven.

I get why so many would not believe in religion but not to believe in bigfoot is crazy to me haha. I reckon Bigfoot existed at one point. Maybe was a diff type of species that is not extinct or something but yeah that is just my thoughts anyway

I wouldn't be all that surprised if some kind of early large hominid got discovered in North America which got killed off by indigenous people or something. But as of today, there are just way, way too many backwoods explorers for nobody to ever take a picture of the bastard or find a set of authentic tracks.

Torsten · 36-40, M

@BlueVeins the gay religious stuff I think is more people twisting their religious views to back up their hatred of gay people. Granted I dont know enough about others religions to really say that but from the arguments I have seen on it, there is many contradictions to gay people and certain religion such as Christianity for example.
when it comes to religion and hating on others due to that, I can see why the arguments are valid

oh yeah Big Foot certainly does not exist at this point of time for sure, But in past though I think could be pretty reasonable to say

robb65 · 56-60, M

@BlueVeins Jehovah's Witnesses are definitely "religious" to the point that it affects their positions on things, but they are also a very bad example of why "religious" doesn't necessarily equate with "correct" positions on things. Take the whole "blood issue" for example. G-d gave instructions to the Israelites not to consume meat with it's blood and there's a lot more details about what that meant that aren't as obvious. Somehow they managed to take this completely out of context and use it to forbid a common life saving medical procedure while totally ignoring the original context. Ever wonder why Jews, the people who this instruction was given to don't have a problem with blood transfusions? Or why they all, from the most observant to the least tend to support abortion rights?

BlueVeins · 22-25

@robb65 You're conflating religion w holy book. A holy book is words on a paper, a religion is an ideology based off the holy book. The two can differ substantially, doesn't make the religion in question any less real, or the followers any less religious.