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Is Muslim religion even a religion or has it been evolved from The Bible itself?

Like those who could not feel that God is merciful, who did not believe in Christ formed another group and made laws, a few taken from Torah and largely according to their own personal will
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assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
Sorry for that. My point is we can all copy paste and say the same thing about any religion based on our personal beliefs and sound strongly opinionated based on confidently stated "facts" that we understand/believe to be true. But in fact none of us here on sw are theological scholars so it's all a wild goose chase on here because you won't get any sound sources in anything. There are some well researched unbiased theological scholarships in the form of books, and documentaries on youtube that cite their sources in the description, so those are better places to gain more knowledge on the historical background of different religions.
JonathanSJ · 36-40, M
@assemblingaknob It is not personal belief. Your reference to it as my personal belief is WRONG and BIASED. You don't need to be a THEOLOGICAL SCHOLAR to understand The GOSPEL.
This is the difference between you and Christians. You need the proof of a THEOLOGICAL SCHOLAR.
Our proof is The Living Holy Spirit and JESUS CHRIST is the living God merciful enough to have opened the gates of heaven for whosoever believes in him. We see prayers. You see proof.
We are guided by The HOLY SPIRIT. you are guided by an unknown gentry, unknown philosophers, theological philosophers, scientists and everyone to back up your hearsay.

Contrary to it, we believe in the words of The Living God who is our sacrificial Lamb, A sinless Lamb, whose blood has opened the doors of heaven for us. God, the father loves him so much that he takes care of the believers of his Son so well that instead of you speaking ARABIC, you have to learn another language and not vice versa, to give us your false proof but as the Lord said, "Beware of the wolves in sheep's clothing". I am in no way criticizing you for your belief but I want you to know the reality, I want you to know the covenants rather than believing in Theological scholars. The foundation which requires a constant proof of theological scholars to clear the doubts of its own people is not, in anyway set to the BASE.
@JonathanSJ You have said the exact truth. The proof is not in man-made philosophy or books. The proof is solely in the experience, which includes the Holy Spirit sent to us from God, when we accept His Son, Jesus, as our Lord and Savior. He is our Teacher and guide in life. And since Jesus's mission on Earth is finished, before He left this earth, He told us to tell everyone His Plan of Salvation, so that none would miss heaven. Also, so we would not have to guess about how to get to heaven. But man in his arrogance, decided he would set his own standard for salvation instead of listening to Jesus, and that will never work. We are not wiser nor smarter than Jesus. If any say we are, there is no truth in them.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace oh. My bad. I forgot that Christians are superior to everyone else and their opinions are "facts". Thank you for opening my eyes. I was blinded by those who have spent decades studying theology and history. Because we don't need the wisdom of priests and scholars to educate us on religion. The gospel is sufficient. Let us protest for all priests to step down!
@assemblingaknob You're the one that assumed that, not me. I have always said here that I am no better than anyone else and people here know that about me. I was wanting to have a decent conversation without sarcasm, but I see you want to be defensive. So, I will just say, no we don't need man-made philosophy and that's what religion is. Christianity is a way of life not a religion. Religion didn't die on the cross to save us from our sins. Jesus did.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace You don't have to SAY it. You insinuated. And that's enough. People can read between the lines you know.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace To say something is an "exact proof" just because it aligns with your BELIEFS (notice it's beliefs and not facts) doesn't turn words into an "exact proof". So yep. That's the Christian narrative. "I'm right. You're wrong." when in fact all we have are opinions based on our beliefs. If only you had read my original comments, which ironically you proved by the way you talk about Christianity.
@assemblingaknob And where did I insinuate that exactly? Now you're my judge? If you can't say anything nice don't say anything at all. I show people respect here when I write to them and I expect the same. You seem to have a big chip on your shoulder by the way you talk to me. You don't know me you just THINK Christians think they're better than anyone else. Never have I said that and never have I thought that.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace and you're not my judge by telling me what I believe in is wrong and biased? Because that's what Jonathan believes. That to reject Christianity is to be biased and Christianity is the only truth, not a religious belief. And you agree with him on the fact that it's not a religious belief, by saying what he has stated is the "exact proof"? So by agreeing with him, you're judging me by calling me biased. Which I'm not. I in fact told him that we all have different religious "beliefs" and that a comment rejecting Judaism and Islam can be made by others regarding Christianity as well! But when Jonathan in his original post does it, it isn't biased. And if I use the exact same words against Christianity, I'm biased.
Lol. It's hilariously ironic.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace So. Moving on. Next he says we don't need religious scholars to teach us the gospel. So now are you going to stand outside all the churches and protest for all the priests to step down? If what he says is the exact proof. This is what he believes in. We don't need scholars to teach us the gospel.
@assemblingaknob Well I see you're still putting words in my mouth and accusing me of things that just aren't true. What you missed is the fact that I said my beliefs are based on the Word of God, not heresay. And God's Word says that when we accept Jesus as our Lord and Savior, God sends the Holy Spirit to dwell in us [b]as proo[/b]f that we have been saved. He said that, not me. Read the Bible and you will see this. It is in God's Word. So if you want to argue with anyone argue with him. There's no guessing when you have God's plan before you in His Word. And if none believes the Word of God, they are basically calling God a liar, when He is incapable of error and lying. God can be trusted.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace so Jonathan hasn't stated the exact proof, then? Because if not then we're cool. Otherwise you're exactly like him.
@assemblingaknob So now why are you dragging Jonathan into this? But to answer your question, as I mentioned earlier, Jonathan did tell you the truth. And I'm proud to say that he loves the Lord, lives his faith, and gets his information and faith from God's Word. Which is straight from God's heart to us today. Jesus said, " I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man comes to my Father, but by Me. It is not up to man to change God's standard for salvation.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@LadyGrace because you seconded his opinion.
You just don't have answers to my questions. And again, all this stuff is your BELIEF. your opinion. Not FACTS. Calling them facts and the ultimate truth is what insinuates you have a superiority complex. Take that and absorb that. Just because you believe in something doesn't mean you shove it down our throats by mislabelling them as facts. Let's stick to the correct terminologies: opinions and beliefs. What we all have. That's all.
JonathanSJ · 36-40, M
@assemblingaknob You need middlemen because middlemen wrote your scriptures.
assemblingaknob · 26-30, F
@JonathanSJ "You need a middleman because middlemen wrote your scriptures. (Paul James Peter john Luke..... ET cetra!) "
@assemblingaknob Usually when there is a troll in the crowd, they start switching things around like you are, and diverting the subject, because they can't answer my questions. I'm on to you. Quite the contrary, it is you who could not answer my questions. I don't know how many times I have to say it and if you don't believe it frankly I don't care but don't put words in my mouth. Last time. I take all my information from God's Holy Word. I SHARE what God's Word says. His opinion, His facts, and His proof. His facts. Only God is superior.

What you call shoving down your throat is what I call sharing God's Word, which is what God told His followers to do, so take it up with Him if you disagree. It is odd that any one of us on SW can post anything they want, including the filthiest words and photos, and no one says a thing, yet let those of us, who love the Lord, come here and share our beliefs and opinions and all of a sudden we're shoving things down people's throat. Just so you know, we are entitled to post anything we like on here, the same as everyone else, without all the harassment and false accusations. People of all faiths also post here in case you don't know. I don't have any problem with that and neither do many others. So if you can come on here and post as you like, I have the same freedom. Nobody said you had to believe like I do. Many don't and that's perfectly fine with me. Nobody is forcing you to read my posts or Jonathan's. But you really need to stop being so prejudiced. If you don't like what any of us post, you're free to move on, it won't bother us a bit. But you really need to learn how to treat others as you would like them to treat you. Now go find someone else to harass. This conversation is closed. I have more constructive things to do with my life than to answer trolls.
@assemblingaknob We don't need Middle Men when God's Word says

JonathanSJ · 36-40, M
@assemblingaknob The point is I openly came up as Christian and you, after several of your comments are telling me not to guess your religion means you are being or trying to be clever in here. We practice simple life and don't deceive anyone in our consciousness.