馃敩 Science vs. 馃尡 Religion. Which one do you think is more important in people's lives.
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Eternity 路 26-30, M
Definitely science. Religion adds nothing positive to anyones life that they could not have added themselves by simply being good people because it is the right thing to do and not because they'll go to hell if they don't.
And as for the negative? I dont need to go into detail. Wars, holocausts, crucifixions, human sacrifice, all kinds of aberrations have happened because of religion. Ultimately it was what governments used to control people before bureaucracy and finance became so sophisticated.
Science is the cure to the disease that is religion.
And as for the negative? I dont need to go into detail. Wars, holocausts, crucifixions, human sacrifice, all kinds of aberrations have happened because of religion. Ultimately it was what governments used to control people before bureaucracy and finance became so sophisticated.
Science is the cure to the disease that is religion.
Lostpoet 路 M
@Eternity But doesn't the government(s) use science as its source of mind controlling the masses? Where as religion tells people to focus on family faith and friends. Wars, genocide, crucifixions all come from the people and institutions that want to have control of the individual and although the way they did that in earlier times was through religion and the belief that if you don't follow certain rules of conduct then you'll burn for eternity hell. Now the ruling class uses science and propaganda through tv, news, radio and the internet to say either behave like this or you are an outsider.
ElwoodBlues 路 M
@Lostpoet [quote]But doesn't the government(s) use science as its source of mind controlling the masses? [/quote]
Mind control, huh? Is this the point where you accuse anybody who disagrees with your opinions of being mind-controlled? Is there any room for debate or is all disagreement immediately mind control?
Mind control, huh? Is this the point where you accuse anybody who disagrees with your opinions of being mind-controlled? Is there any room for debate or is all disagreement immediately mind control?
Eternity 路 26-30, M
@Lostpoet science is the successor to religion. Just as the government used to use religion to control the masses, science does have the capacity to be used that way as well.
The difference is, science has not reached that point yet, whereas religion reached that point thousands of years ago. The beast of science is still young and manageable whereas the beast of religion is old and ornery and has already wrecked much havoc.
So it is time to put the beast of religion down, and ride the beast of science as far as it will take us until a new beast is born. Then we rinse and repeat.
The difference is, science has not reached that point yet, whereas religion reached that point thousands of years ago. The beast of science is still young and manageable whereas the beast of religion is old and ornery and has already wrecked much havoc.
So it is time to put the beast of religion down, and ride the beast of science as far as it will take us until a new beast is born. Then we rinse and repeat.
BlueVeins 路 22-25
@Lostpoet I can't name a single religion that extolls individual liberty above all else. The vast majority of the time -- at least in the modern world -- war propaganda appeals to utilitarian moral principles that anyone would agree with if the premises weren't completely false. Afghanistan was supposed to be a war to protect America and save Afghani women. Iraq was supposed to prevent a nuclear holocaust. The Russo-Ukrainian War was supposed to prevent NATO from invading Russia or something (idk it was pretty incoherent).