Quran verse !

@Entwistle I am in favor of freedom of speech. But not freedom of violence and hate. I’m having a wonderful time with people in my comment section disagreeing with me for instance people like @Kwek00

But if you use foul language and use the weapon of ignorance and hate be prepared to get your comments deleted 💗
I hope I answered your question dear Entwistle

@Islamreligion Then you are in no way a supporter of free speech. You pick and choose what you allow.

@Entwistle no I am only practicing similar world guidelines of speech which you could check.
If you have a problem with how similar worlds view free speech please do feel free to contact them

@Islamreligion If you put any restrictions on what people can say then you arw not in favour of free speech.

@Entwistle I guess then similar worlds are not in favor of free speech.

@Islamreligion Similar worlds is somebody's property,business they have a right to apply rules. However you personally have no right to restrict what people can and cannot say.
Do you attempt to stop what people can say in the real world?

@Entwistle exactly they set the rules.
And I am following their rules.
On posts that are not my own ,
I can report their hate speech or and block them.
As for posts that are my own ,
I can easily remove such comments which is a right given to me by similar worlds.
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“Do you attempt to stop what people can say in the real world?“

In real world , unfortunately there is no block /delete /mute button therefore I ignore them just like how the Quran instructs me to.
but when I have the power to restrict such hate and foul language
Then yes, I’ll do that proudly. I’ll not empower hate in any form.

Unless you are trying to say that you cannot deliver your opinion in a civilized manner ?
Then you need to question you manners before you do mine.

I have had a long thread with kwek00 and many other non Muslims
And I deleted none of their comments. I don’t think it’s hard to discuss in a civilized manner.
And I’m sure you are a civilized person

@Islamreligion I just wanted fo show you that you aren't a supporter of free speech. You admitted it yourself. Thats all.

@Entwistle okay then phew Im glad I’m not a supporter of hate.
Have a great day

@Islamreligion Being a supporter of free speech doesn't mean you automatically support what is being said.

@Entwistle so you are saying , if a person in public starts using hateful hurtful foul and violent language against another person
just because of their race or religion or sex etc
You will tolerate that under your support of freedom of speech?
No sir. Any sane and good person would walk in and stop that violence.

I do not support freedom of speech when the speech is used as a weapon to discriminate against another person/group and insult them and hurt them.
In real life , I can do nothing but ignore but
Online when I have the option to Im more than proud to delete that hate and teach the haters that they have no place on my content until they learn to speak in a civilized manner.

Ironic how you believe freedom of speech is a right but not freedom of religion without being attacked and discriminated for it
You can’t have one and the other

@Islamreligion They are allowed to say hurtful things but they come with consequences.
You are definitely free to say them.
Do you think i should be allowed to say Mohammed was a monster and the Quran is a pile of horse crap?

@Entwistle
“but they come with consequences.”
Exactly , the consequences on my posts is that they get deleted after being said !

Im sorry but I’ll not go back and forth on this back to not waste your time and mine
have a good day

@Entwistle well, so much for the myth of free speech in Islam. Apparently you can say whatever a Muslim wants to hear

@newjaninev2 Exactly. Then again they believe its okay that Mohammed married a 6 year old girl..oh and they believe in a flying horse too. Nutcases.

@Entwistle and talking ants that can recognise individual human faces.

If you want a really good laugh, check out Mohammad’s explanation of what determines an embryo’s sex

@newjaninev2 Maybe you shouldn’t waste your time. Any muslim can morally engage in deception or misdirection in the furtherance of islam. It’s called taqiyya. This back and forth is just avoiding the obvious. Shortly she’ll claim she doesn’t know what taqiyya is.

@newjaninev2 Also that if a man is thinking of another woman whilst having sexual intercourse with his wife then any resulting offspring will be gay!

@redredredThere is a peculiarity in discussions with moslems. They seem to take as a starting position, on the basis of no reason at all, that the koran cannot be in error.

For them, this seems to be an absolute given.

In a discussion about the koran, one might reasonably assume that the discussion would include three possibilities:
1. the koran is wrong
2. the evidence is wrong
3. the explanation of the evidence is wrong
and that the problem lies within one of those possibilities (or some combination thereof).

However, muslims seem to completely disregard (1). For them, there is absolutely no possibility that the koran is wrong.

This seems to be why, when faced with rock-solid evidence, they take that as proof only that the explanation must, absolutely must, be incorrect. In their minds, the possibility that the evidence shows the koran to be wrong simply does not exist… cannot exist… cannot be allowed to exist. I am forced to consider the startling possibility that their indoctrination is so complete, so comprehensive, that they are actually incapable of even considering such a possibility.

It also means that, in any such discussion, the terms of the discussion are not balanced. You expect that, in principle, any one of the three possibilities above may apply… but the muslim has already excluded one of them (solely on the basis of self-interest). Consequently, during the discussion the muslim will bounce between (2) and (3), but can never… not ever… go anywhere near (1).

However bizarre the claims about (2) or (3) need to become, the muslim can never, not ever, follow the huge, glaring, neon-lit arrow of reason that points to (1). Any diversion, any circumlocution, any claim of mistranslation (a common tactic), any appeal to any authority (however laughable), any evasion whatsoever will be used in order to avoid (1).

This means that the discussion is not an attempt to arrive at the truth. It has no intellectual merit, because it is not conducted openly and honestly.

It is a mere pretence.

@newjaninev2 add to what you’ve said only this, in almost all matter 1) is the most likely correct answer, the koran is almost always wrong. It’s an ancient collection of drivel cobbled together from specious sources.

@newjaninev2
1/
You said :
“ If you want a really good laugh, check out Mohammad’s explanation of what determines an embryo’s sex”

Enlighten me , because the Quran clearly hinted at it being the male sperm that determines the sect.

An-Najm - Verse 45-46
{And He created the pairs—males and females—
from a sperm-drop when it is emitted.}

2/“moslems“
It is Muslim dear.

3/ I have never debated anyone here without reason or r deleted anyones comment simply because they differed with me.

I only ask for people to be civilized when they speak not ridicule , spam and use disrespectful language. If that is too hard for someone
then their comments have no place on my content and I won’t apologize for it with all due respect.

I have had wonderful discussions with many people who differed with me on my threads the only difference they spoke with intellect and good manners
4/ you said “the koran is wrong”
Please tell me specific verse and why instead from there we can actually have a conversation.

@newjaninev2 “well, so much for the myth of free speech in Islam. Apparently you can say whatever a Muslim wants to hear”

1/I never said i represent Islam , i represent myself only.
2/ I never said I support freedom of speech entirely. I said I support it as long as they don’t ridicule and attack any religious or none religious group on my content.
You can have a different opinion but just state it in a civilized manner.

If you cannot state your opinion in a civilized manner without attacking other people
Then you are contradicting the right of freedom of religion
And contracting yourself since you call Islam to be uncivil and violent etc..

@newjaninev2
As for your comment about the ant which is a good observation. I assume you are talking about the story of the ant and Solomon In the Quran
1/ true that ants do communicate by pheromones. however many academic researches and experiments show other possibilities
And they suggest they also do so by acoustic communication. One of the researchers in this field is Robert hickling .
I can share many academic links of different research done on this topic if you’d like to read
2/ the Quran never said that the ant recognized him by face. I would like to see that verse that says the ant knew Solomon from his face.
It could have been by odor.
Or even an inspiration by God because after all Solomon knowing the language of animals is from the beginning is a miracle and not a normal situation.