Ladies, do you feel there is more leeway on what a guy can say to you in a social setting, based on how attractive he is?
I ask this with only curiosity. I am a male that would say is about mid par on the attractive rating I am not a 10 but not a 1 either. I am married but I have always been curious about this. I have heard guys who are "10s" say things that when a "1" says them they are considered "rude" or "creepy." Is there a ratio here? If a guy is more attractive is he allowed to get away with saying things that unattractive men cannot? Also keep in mind this could be something as simple as saying, "Wow that's a cool book you are reading," all the way up to, "can I buy you a drink?"
Please keep in mind this is in no relation to cat calling or things of that nature, but rather when you are in a social setting such as a bar, club, or coffee shop and a man approaches you. I think that far too much compensation and leeway is given in the workplace to both pregnant women and those women who have young children. CMV.
It must be said that for 99% of the time, the decision to become pregnant, to continue with the pregnancy and to raise a child is a choice freely made by the woman. I also have little issue with said women being in the workplace. However I take issue where said pregnancy or child has a negative impact on others. If you're in the workplace, you should be expected to work, simple as that. Now fair enough, there are certain things that a pregnant woman shouldn't be expected to do, but I think the real issue lies because all too often in my experience, being pregnant seems to be a magic ticket to getting out of doing jobs that they are perfectly capable of doing. Being pregnant isn't some disability, and it does not stop you from doing something simple like carrying light objects, standing, walking short distances or something. Guess who has the fun of doing all the stuff they 'can't' do? Idiots like me who are forced to do both my job and theirs too.
Then there's the issue of holidays and leaving work early. Again I've been in and am in a situation where it seems those with children are getting the best of it, leaving others to pick up their slack. They get to leave early, and it's usually those without children/those with older children who are picking up the slack. Similarly, it's those with children who are quick to put in their holidays, and they nearly always seem to have an attitude that just because they have a young child, they should get some magical first choice, and it's a case of 'sod anyone else'. They don't seem to think that anyone has a right to the time off they want. Then there's the whole palaver with childcare. A lot of people I work with claim that because they can't work certain shifts because they can't get childcare, or that they need to get home at some random time because of childcare arrangements. I cannot see how this is a problem for any employer- again, you chose to have a kid, and as far as I'm concerned, you're lying if you can't even find a neighbour/friend/a babysitter who's willing to cover a few hours. Hell, my own parents and grandparents seemed to manage pretty fine, and they have all worked full-time, not part-time as many of these people are doing. You can't have it both ways and expect the pay check and the job if you're not prepared to pull your weight fairly.
So, can anyone care to tackle this one and change my mind? I’m currently working at a job with a pretty strict schedule, and the favoritism and special breaks given to my coworkers with kids is absolutely insane. We have a daily 8am meeting that is supposed to be mandatory. But Mommy Marcia (not her real name) always calls in, or skips entirely, because her little muffins keep her from being on time. There’s always obnoxious noises of kids squabbling and screaming in the background, totally disrupting the flow of the meeting and everyone else’s ability to hear. Meanwhile I was once given flack for calling in because I had a DOCTORS APPOINTMENT. So sorry that my health isn’t as important as Mommy Marcia’s inability to time manage her mornings.
We also have to take turns closing, which means staying an extra hour or so. We take turns on a rotating shift schedule, and it usually works fine, although no one likes having to do it. Recently I noticed that the rest of us were being put on closing more often while another coworker, let’s call her Breeding Betty, never seemed to be on close. I asked about it and turns out Betty, who lives about a 90 minute drive away, complained that she couldn’t stay late to close because the rush hour traffic would mean she’d get home too late to spend time with her precious darling children. I’m sorry, but you chose to live a stupid distance away, and that choice combined with the also stupid decision to have kids doesn’t make you immune from a responsibility the rest of us have to just deal with. I’d also like to skip closing so I could have more time for friends, pets, or hobbies, but that’s not as valid as having a snotty toddler.
The self importance of these people is absolutely insane! Why is it that the second someone has kids any rule can be bent, but a CF person’s similar requests are always invalid or lesser?! When you make the choice to have kids you’re complicating your life. If you can’t manage the additional time requirements then that’s on you, you made the choice. The prejudice is so unreal! Do you give leeway to men in their 30s and up who have little-to-know relationship experience or knowledge?
Please keep in mind this is in no relation to cat calling or things of that nature, but rather when you are in a social setting such as a bar, club, or coffee shop and a man approaches you. I think that far too much compensation and leeway is given in the workplace to both pregnant women and those women who have young children. CMV.
It must be said that for 99% of the time, the decision to become pregnant, to continue with the pregnancy and to raise a child is a choice freely made by the woman. I also have little issue with said women being in the workplace. However I take issue where said pregnancy or child has a negative impact on others. If you're in the workplace, you should be expected to work, simple as that. Now fair enough, there are certain things that a pregnant woman shouldn't be expected to do, but I think the real issue lies because all too often in my experience, being pregnant seems to be a magic ticket to getting out of doing jobs that they are perfectly capable of doing. Being pregnant isn't some disability, and it does not stop you from doing something simple like carrying light objects, standing, walking short distances or something. Guess who has the fun of doing all the stuff they 'can't' do? Idiots like me who are forced to do both my job and theirs too.
Then there's the issue of holidays and leaving work early. Again I've been in and am in a situation where it seems those with children are getting the best of it, leaving others to pick up their slack. They get to leave early, and it's usually those without children/those with older children who are picking up the slack. Similarly, it's those with children who are quick to put in their holidays, and they nearly always seem to have an attitude that just because they have a young child, they should get some magical first choice, and it's a case of 'sod anyone else'. They don't seem to think that anyone has a right to the time off they want. Then there's the whole palaver with childcare. A lot of people I work with claim that because they can't work certain shifts because they can't get childcare, or that they need to get home at some random time because of childcare arrangements. I cannot see how this is a problem for any employer- again, you chose to have a kid, and as far as I'm concerned, you're lying if you can't even find a neighbour/friend/a babysitter who's willing to cover a few hours. Hell, my own parents and grandparents seemed to manage pretty fine, and they have all worked full-time, not part-time as many of these people are doing. You can't have it both ways and expect the pay check and the job if you're not prepared to pull your weight fairly.
So, can anyone care to tackle this one and change my mind? I’m currently working at a job with a pretty strict schedule, and the favoritism and special breaks given to my coworkers with kids is absolutely insane. We have a daily 8am meeting that is supposed to be mandatory. But Mommy Marcia (not her real name) always calls in, or skips entirely, because her little muffins keep her from being on time. There’s always obnoxious noises of kids squabbling and screaming in the background, totally disrupting the flow of the meeting and everyone else’s ability to hear. Meanwhile I was once given flack for calling in because I had a DOCTORS APPOINTMENT. So sorry that my health isn’t as important as Mommy Marcia’s inability to time manage her mornings.
We also have to take turns closing, which means staying an extra hour or so. We take turns on a rotating shift schedule, and it usually works fine, although no one likes having to do it. Recently I noticed that the rest of us were being put on closing more often while another coworker, let’s call her Breeding Betty, never seemed to be on close. I asked about it and turns out Betty, who lives about a 90 minute drive away, complained that she couldn’t stay late to close because the rush hour traffic would mean she’d get home too late to spend time with her precious darling children. I’m sorry, but you chose to live a stupid distance away, and that choice combined with the also stupid decision to have kids doesn’t make you immune from a responsibility the rest of us have to just deal with. I’d also like to skip closing so I could have more time for friends, pets, or hobbies, but that’s not as valid as having a snotty toddler.
The self importance of these people is absolutely insane! Why is it that the second someone has kids any rule can be bent, but a CF person’s similar requests are always invalid or lesser?! When you make the choice to have kids you’re complicating your life. If you can’t manage the additional time requirements then that’s on you, you made the choice. The prejudice is so unreal! Do you give leeway to men in their 30s and up who have little-to-know relationship experience or knowledge?
