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Domestic abuse and violence

Do most perpetrators have a personality disorder or mental illness
can mental illness cause violence
or is it a seprate issue?
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Scribbles · 36-40, F
Fact: people with mental illness are MORE likely to become a victim of abuse or violence then a perpetrator.

Most perpetrators of abuse and violence show no symptoms of mental illness.

The fact of the matter, is that anyone can be dangerous. It comes down to if they have the means and will to do so. People who are more desperate and see violence and abuse as an answer are the ones most likely to resort to such options. It has nothing to do with mental Illness.
SW-User
@Scribbles What then of the perpetrator?
A pathetic human being then, who gains no respect.
Queendragonfly · 31-35, F
@Scribbles Source on this plesse because this sounds like something out of your own pocket.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@Queendragonfly I've seen lots of journals and articles about this topic. It's heavily studied. Just do some googling. It's endless. It was a well known fact in every psychology class I ever took in university over ten years ago. What I said is a quote I remember from a book back then (I no longer remember which textbook)

Sarah L. Desmarais, Richard A. Van Dorn, Kiersten L. Johnson, Kevin J. Grimm, Kevin S. Douglas, Marvin S. Swartz. Community Violence Perpetration and Victimization Among Adults With Mental Illnesses. American Journal of Public Health, 2014; e1 DOI:

This site:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK537064/


While perpetrating violence is relatively uncommon among those with serious mental illness, when it does occur, in many cases it is intertwined with other issues such as co-occurring substance use, adverse childhood experiences, and environmental factors, says Eric B. Elbogen, PhD, a psychologist and professor of psychiatry and behavioral science at the Duke University School of Medicine who studies violence and mental illness.

“If a person has a severe mental illness, [they] may have other risk factors for violent behavior,” he says. “So, it may not be mental illness that is driving the violence at all, but rather factors like having been abused as a child, being unemployed, or living in a high-crime neighborhood.” (from https://www.apa.org/monitor/2021/04/ce-mental-illness)

https://efsgv.org/learn/learn-more-about-gun-violence/mental-illness-and-gun-violence/
SW-User
@Scribbles But on a personal note, I witnessed my drunken father beat my mother up every Sunday afternoon, as a boy. She was far from being mentally ill.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@SW-User sure it happens. My Brother who suffered from PTSD, OCD,and was Bipolar, and had psychotic breaks would scare, threaten, beat, molest, rape me and tried to kill.me.by throwing me.down a staircase.

But it doesn't mean that all interpersonal violence can be attributed to mental illness. Some is. But it's a small percent.

And not everyone who is abused is mentally Ill or becomes so.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@SW-User I'm sorry about your family. That must have been very hard. :/
SW-User
@Scribbles But you consider it normal as a child.

Nothing compared to what you suffered though.
Scribbles · 36-40, F
@SW-User not normal at all. I was very traumatized for a long time. It was horrifying.

But my brothers actions stemmed from the fact that he had a lot of anger and frustration, and he learned it was acceptable to force and bully people to do what he wanted from others around him, and he pushed further and further and got more angry and insecure and went to further extremes. He was afraid of consequences and learned to lie and gaslight very well. His mental illness wasn't a factor until he was already molesting and beating me up. Sure it made things worse, but it wasn't the cause.

Yes of course such behavior sounds mad (because it is immoral and harmful). But it is not a diagnosable mental illness to be angry and hurt people. It is not a diagnosable mental illness to bully. It is not a diagnosable.mental illness to molest or rape.