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There is a group on FB called 'Raising A Grown Man'

It disgusts me that so many women married "men" who literally act like another one of the woman's children instead of a husband. I am so glad I never married or had kids. Doesn't sound like the wonderful miracle it's made out to be. Just sounds like unpaid extra labor. Pass.
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SammyJo · 51-55, F
I hear of plenty of men like that. I also - thankfully - hear of men that aren't!

Sadly, I also hear about women that just want to get married and stay at home/never work.

Thankfully, some of us - on both sexes - put the effort in to being an individual that can look after themselves.

SJD x
Chiefjustice · 46-50, M
@SammyJo

I think it is okay for moms, specially new ones to stay at home and raise kids, unless it is absolutely yes necessary are they can manage it. I think it puts too much pressure on an individual to be do too much.
At the same time their contribution to look after them financially when possible, sure by all means.
SammyJo · 51-55, F
@Chiefjustice Hmmmm. Old values. I think that BOTH parents should look after the children, both with time and effort. Not one bringing home the money and never spending any time with them.

SJD x
Chiefjustice · 46-50, M
@SammyJo
Not about the old values, absolutely both parents should help raise the kids, equally i think is impractical in todays' time. When one parent is working 8-6 or 9 -7 job someone has to make sure the house and the kids looked after, the capatialism is good, however, not as good. I have lived through this and done research on kids as part of my university course study.

While some can afford to do as you say, many or large population cannot. We have one parent working day shift other night shift kids bounce around between baby sitters, and or here an there. You can tell it is half ass job done. The stories i have seen and heard of from my own kids, my friends and community at large.

I do understand your view point, and don't disagree when it is possible. I remember once sitting next to someone in a flight, an accomplished female professional who said she was taking a break from work l, why to raise her two kids. And i asked why, when she could easily afford child care. She replied, then why have them if i want them to be raised by others, they are mine. And said her husband has demanding job, he cannot be home every day with them, may be 3 or 4 times a week.