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@ScabbyHeart Your ideology does niot scratch beyond the surface. Go deeper please
The epistles were written by eye-witnesses of Jesus Christ. They conformed His life, death< & resurrection. And they themselves were confirmed by other eye-witnesses. The person whom they so exhort eve - Jesus - is spoken of and written about by numerous non-christian and pagan writers, including Josephus. The New Testament is even further affirmed by the old testament (or/and vice-versa) - the old testament containing numerous prophecies, of which not a single one was with fail to execution.

Sir, let us not argue blindly, please. Study the bible for yourself.

SIR, I have read the bible cover to cover twice and new testament many many times ( have also read the Quran,studied Buddhist, Hindu, Pagan/Wicca)... You are in a logic loop because you MUST RELY on FAITH to believe what ever VERSION of the bible you have (written 2000 years ago), actually happened. The NEW testament has been copied, EDITED and reinterpreted, gone though filters of Christian sects Catholicism, Protestant, Kings... please don't tell me YOU have a first source copy of written text of Jesus? OR even a unreliable WITNESS account from Mathew Mark, Luke or John?
It's interesting on how those supposed primary witness account differ on their stories of Jesus. Just saying...

Hey if Religion - Christianity works for you, Great! worship, pray, follow ... just stop trying to convince the rest of us. What works for you MAY NOT work for me.

Cause that "convincing" has caused alot of innocents their lives -
Crusades, Inquisitions, Wars... the rest of could do without!

Also The HYPOCRISY is what I truly despise.... Do as I say not as I do...
No homosexuals its wrong - cause I don't do that BUT, but I can be an adulterer, murderer, covet my neighbors wife heck any wife watching porn, Lie, cheat, steal (gonna' get mine!)... I'll just ask for forgiveness later, it will be ok at least we don't stone for that anymore...
Cant have any abortions, no sir, but does the christian community provide an alternative for or daughters or sons mistake? No, they turn a blind judgemental eye - the shame of which, caused the need for abortions in the first place!

As I have said before IF WE ALL TRY TO BE THE BEST PERSON WE COULD BE (FOLLOW THE THE BEST INTENTIONS OF THE BIBLE, OR ANY OF THE WORLDS RELIGIONS - LEAVE THE JUDGMENTS BEHIND) and just FOCUS ON OURSELVES...
the world may just become the place we all want it to be.

Just a thought...

@Lincoln98 Oh, my heavens! I cannot believe what you just wrote!
Are you serious?? I don't know where you are getting your information but it sure isn't God's Word.

Said by a true believer... one US dollar use to be worth one dollar's worth of gold. Now it based on what ever we(fed reserve) and other countries (buying our Treasury bonds) say it is... so now the US dollar is just a worthless piece of paper but we have faith when we walk into a store We can trade it for a good.

I'm glad you find comfort in the Bible... it has meaning for YOU, and therefore has "worth" ... to has worth to me too, if we all were to follow THE BEST of all its teachings (not pick out single lines or phrases and interpret them to support our human flawed thinking) we would all be better people, citizens, society, human race.

Lady Grace - please explain to me how Christians persecute Homosexuality - which has absolutely NO effect on their lives, but have 50% of straight marriages ending in divorce... but we dont stone to death the adulterer(s) as the Bible says? Maybe because we have evolved in our thinking... stoning is no longer an acceptable punishment for any crime... so why cant we accept homosexuality? Tattooing is a sin against GOD (no marking of the skin) but nearly everyone has a tatoo - Christians accepted this idea so this sin is ok not a big deal... who decided that?

See thats the issue, that's the trap - who decides? Me? You? our pastor, reverend, curch council, the pope.... maybe just GOD?
Well its in the Bible... well ok, but lots of things are in the Bible which do we follow and which do we not follow? Who decides that? and thats where corruption starts... who decides.... ???

@ScabbyHeart I like your thinking. Let me get a bite to eat before I get ill, then I will answer your questions. Thank you for these.

@LadyGrace and for the record Im not a homosexual, lefty, or atheist. If any of that matters to you (which it should not).

All the worlds religions can be corrupted, subjugated, twisted, spun into whatever we want it to mean... religion(S) continue to be a major cause of war and suffering in the world ...where they should be a force for peace, compassion, understanding for good... this is what I struggle with... and this is why we all need to think for ourselves... be the very best we can be.. try to be the best example of : Jesus, Buddha, Mohamed, (insert your religious figure here)...we can

@ScabbyHeart Alright, I'm back.

Christians have no right to persecute [b]anyone[/b]. This one scripture says it all. Take special note on what this says...

Romans 3:23-26 - "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;..."

Who has sinned? [b]ALL[/b]
Who falls short of the glory of God? [b]ALL[/b]

I don't see one thing in that verse that even [b]hints[/b] that God singles out different groups of people for their sins, do you? I don't see one word in that verse that says "You filthy murderers, homosexuals, and thieves!!" No. You'll notice we're [b]all[/b] in the same boat. Sinners that fall short of heaven. Jesus didn't single one person out over another. That also means that not one of us is any better than the other.

WE DON'T GET TO SET THE STANDARD; GOD DOES

What does that mean? It means God does not categorize SIN, like humans do. Sin is sin. It separates every one of us from our Father in heaven. We all fall short.

Short of what? What does that mean, exactly, that we "fall short". Who says so?? It means that not by our standards, but by [b]God's[/b] standards, our sin is keeping us from heaven. And he really hates that, because sin keeps us separated from Him.

People make a huge mistake by assuming that God hates us so much. If God hated us so much, he certainly would not have left his heavenly home to come to this earth, only to be nailed to a wooden cross, and suffer the agonizing torture of being suspended by his wrists and feet between heaven and earth. That sure doesn't sound like a God that hates us, to me. He didn't [b]have[/b] to do that. He [b]volunteered.[/b]

So....Jesus hates SIN....but NOT the sinner, himself.

But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. Romans 5:8

God is fair. Sin is not. He did not create it and he cannot condone it. He died on the cross to pay for our sins with His blood, just so we could have eternal life, if we so choose. He cannot make that choice for us. If he did, he would not be letting us exercise free will. Would you like to force someone to love you? No. That would not be true love. Jesus felt the same way. When we come to him on our own accord, that tells him and shows him how much we love him. He did not make us to be unfeeling robots. If it were not for him, none of us would go to heaven. Then how would we like that? We should be very grateful to him for his great self-sacrifice.

I don't think that God hates us... Humans. God gave US free will the greatest gift... we can choose not to sin... but we do! Why would God make an imperfect being? He did not BUt we got Free will... and Thats our responsibility as humans to choose [b]not[/b] to lie cheat steal, kill (pick your sin) the rest of your argument is irrelevant... we choose...
not what happens to us after we made the wrong choice...

Why not TRY not to sin in the first place? but we don't why ? why do we sin? why? dont use the out... of the devil made me do it, temptations, we have to first be Broken to be fixed by God, excuse... what if we made good choices to begin with? I did not have a drug or alcohol problem, i did not get anyone pregnant, I had a good home no divorce, no abuse, I did everything right..

I use my free will wisely... and I still need to be saved from what? for who? If im a good person wont God accept me as I am? not needing the Bible to be a good person, do the right thing, be responsible and mature, help my neighbor and community, show compassion when needed..

I dont need the Bible to tell me how to be a good understand compassionate caring strong just person maybe you do and thats OK

again if we just [b]focus on ourselves[/b] and [b]stop[/b] worrying and judging everyone else.. its a better world

@ScabbyHeart It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't bow down to her god and do exactly what she says her god wants you to do, you'll burn in Hell forever. See you there. ;)

@suzie1960
[i]"It doesn't matter how good you are, if you don't bow down to her god and do exactly what she says her god wants you to do, you'll burn in Hell forever. See you there."[/i]

I beg of you, learn to speak facts
Especially when it regards the bible. I am totally appalled at your curious grasp on ignorance.

@Lincoln98 I've actually read the bible, which is more than most christians can say. My post was just a typical christian's ignorant interpretation of it.

@ScabbyHeart You didn't say who this reply was directed to.

@Lincoln98 I sure hope Susie isn't quoting me, because I've never stated or claimed that. If so, she needs to show the proof.