Trump could still be barred from running again under the 14th Amendment!

@MistyCee Nope. He doesn't need to be convicted to be barred apparently.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/14th-amendment-trump/

@SW-User ahh. I'm not so convinced on the 14th amendment working without a conviction.

@MistyCee Meh, it will probably come to nothing, but hey I'm no legal scholar (although some of the Trumpettes on here claim to be 🤭)

@SW-User Seems like even the scholars aren't so clear on where we are with this mess.

It's not a legal opinion, but I think that worrying about how to disqualify Trump from running again in 4 years is a waste of time right now, especially because he might be indicted and conceivably even tried by then.

@MistyCee I think he will have suicided by then from the amount of crap which the investigations will uncover and the dismantling & selling off of his assets from all the debt coming due...ans the drum beat in his head & from outside him that he lost.

@SomeMichGuy Suicide would be convenient, but I think a heart attack or a stroke would be more likely.

@MistyCee ? Death by his own hand is more likely, I think.

I don't think he needs an impeachment conviction, though; he could have a separate action brought to convict him of this, or find him guilty of it, etc.

They should do this for all the traitors, incl. the Lt. Col. from the Air Force, etc.

@SomeMichGuy Hmm.

As for a conviction, I'd much rather see Trump criminally convicted by a jury than enduring another political "trial" by the Senate that could be "written off" as purely political, even if I thought the Senate would convict, which I'm not sure could ever happen.

As for Trump taking his own life, while I don't know the man personally, I haven't seen him ever show any indications that he would do it, and really doubt he's capable of it. I know the suicide is selfish act thing, but that usually gets into play in terms of thinking about the survivors, and I've never really seen any indication that Trump is motivated by anything other than himself and to a small degree, his perception by others. Also, my guess is he'd see that choice as weak and something that a loser would do. Trump, for whatever else he is, is a survivor, and his life history shows that he'll do whatever it takes and screw whomever it takes to do it.

@MistyCee It was reported shortly after the election was known to be lost, in Nov., that Trump was acting sthg similar to how he is now acting, and said, "Why couldn't the military make it easy and just leave a gun in a drawer?".

He is in uncharted waters, as his niece said, and being dealt the public blow of not only having Biden & Harris sworn in, but not having ANY rôle in it saying--like a petulant child!--he won't come, and having everyone GLAD he is not going to be there...

Add to this the further public releases of the questionings he'll endure, etc., the publishing of more of his financial problems, etc., the trials, the creditors, the crumbling of the physical Trump empire...

I don't think he'll be able to simply narcissist it away, put a spin on it, because he will have lost power, prestige, podium/bully pulpit, properties, prosperity...and *people*.

So, confronted by that...yeah, I think he is pretty likely to commit self-murder.

@SomeMichGuy I'm still not really that convinced, but hey, it worked out for Trump's role model, the guy who Godwin used to say shouldn't be mentioned.

Of course, Godwin himself later added that his Law should not apply to Trump.