Pretzel · 70-79, M
At first I thought they fired without any cause - that they were to the side of the vehicle and weren't in any danger.
that last video I saw seemed to show a third officer being obscured in the first video that was actually hit (although slowly) by the car.
Not really sure he felt he was in danger at that speed - but I think that anybody approached by law enforcement with a gun in their hand that tries to speed away and clips a cop is asking to be shot.
It has come out that the shooting office was in an incident where he was dragged by a vehicle - so I can understand how he felt in danger and why he shot.
That being said - I'm not a fan of ICE - and they remind me of the SS in 1930s Germany.
So bottom line - not an illegal shooting but ICE should be retasked. I understand they have hired a bunch of people all at once so the agency is probably not well organized and they swagger like they own the country.
Not a fan.
that last video I saw seemed to show a third officer being obscured in the first video that was actually hit (although slowly) by the car.
Not really sure he felt he was in danger at that speed - but I think that anybody approached by law enforcement with a gun in their hand that tries to speed away and clips a cop is asking to be shot.
It has come out that the shooting office was in an incident where he was dragged by a vehicle - so I can understand how he felt in danger and why he shot.
That being said - I'm not a fan of ICE - and they remind me of the SS in 1930s Germany.
So bottom line - not an illegal shooting but ICE should be retasked. I understand they have hired a bunch of people all at once so the agency is probably not well organized and they swagger like they own the country.
Not a fan.
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Pretzel · 70-79, M
@LILY61 "hindsight is 20 20"
To me the BIG thing is that ICE seems to be a rogue set of bullies given power to do whatever the hell they want to do.I hope Congress will step in - but given the current political climate I doubt they will.
But in that one encounter when surrounded by people armed with a gun and badge - clipping one of them with your car - the outcome isn't surprising.
She was operating a lethal weapon and assaulted an armed federal agent supposedly conducting a legal traffic stop when one was assaulted. Given those set of circumstances I don't think the officer(s) that shot are guilty of anything - EXCEPT the one officer that was directly in the "line of fire" by being in harm's way of the vehicle. He was guilty of stupidity and they were probably lined up incorrectly and could have been victim's of friendly fire.
Do I think she "deserved" to be killed? Nope. But then the officer didn't "deserve" to be hit with a vehicle.
ICE needs to be reigned in - and the only people that can do it is Congress - the Prez is obviously happy with what's going on.
To me the BIG thing is that ICE seems to be a rogue set of bullies given power to do whatever the hell they want to do.I hope Congress will step in - but given the current political climate I doubt they will.
But in that one encounter when surrounded by people armed with a gun and badge - clipping one of them with your car - the outcome isn't surprising.
She was operating a lethal weapon and assaulted an armed federal agent supposedly conducting a legal traffic stop when one was assaulted. Given those set of circumstances I don't think the officer(s) that shot are guilty of anything - EXCEPT the one officer that was directly in the "line of fire" by being in harm's way of the vehicle. He was guilty of stupidity and they were probably lined up incorrectly and could have been victim's of friendly fire.
Do I think she "deserved" to be killed? Nope. But then the officer didn't "deserve" to be hit with a vehicle.
ICE needs to be reigned in - and the only people that can do it is Congress - the Prez is obviously happy with what's going on.
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deadmoon · 31-35, F
I watched the video from many different angles. I do see an individual engaging in domestic terrorism in that video, but that individual’s name is Jonathan Ross, not Renee Nicole Good. They are calling everybody who gets in their way the terrorists to detract attention away from the fact that the only ones engaging in domestic terrorism are them. It’s projection at its finest.
Notsimilarreally · 31-35, F
I think it's devastating and wrong. The officer should be charged with murder. I also think people should stay away from ICE raids. Not because I agree with ice raids but because things like this happen. Nobody should go anywhere near the ice officers unless they are prepared to be hurt and unfortunately worse.
@Notsimilarreally did you watch the video? it was very confusing. i had the impression that they were attacking her from the door and blocking her infront of the car. i seriously doubt she was trying to run over the officer but was not paying attention because of the door side attack
Trav2024 · 51-55, M
A German minister gave us a quote about the WWII-era Gestapo and it could be applied to ICE right now:
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
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FloorGenAdm · 51-55, M
@FloorGenAdm that was it? and the daycare is fake?
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