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Thoughts on love?

We each have our own thoughts and desires when it comes to romantic connection. We each bring old hurt and wounds into every new relationship. Some people seem to find someone and they work it out happily. A lot of people have expectations and rules and make each other miserable. People lie and cheat.

Personally I watched my dad marry four times and my mom twice and her second husband practically killed her for her money. I have witnessed and experienced a lot of selfish and controlling behavior in others and my own relationships. I am divorced from a man who led me to believe he was someone he wasn't.

I don't deny a healthy relationship would feel good, but how is anyone expected to enjoy and put their faith in a union the other person can choose to trash at any moment because they want to?

I try to think of it all as fleeting. People have their individual freedoms and even if I want to be committed, I have to respect that my trust can be broken at any time. And that if I cry about it, it's my fault.

Life and humanity and experience has taught me to keep to myself. Being a good partner sets you up for being taken for granted.

The only love I find worthwhile is parent/child, the few people I recognize truly care and the love I feel being in nature and around animals.

Having a partner has always meant a lot of give and no get for me. It has always meant shame, fear and disappointment. It's tiring and life draining.

People will say that I don't choose well, as if it's my fault for seeing the good in someone.

I don't know, I just don't want it anymore. Being that close to someone and opening myself up to the possibility of being blamed when they do bad things is very unappealing. There's no bright side left.

Letting someone in my life has always been a disaster that I have to clean up no matter how clean I was.

Not looking for advice at all, I've shared my thoughts, but feel free to share your perspective as I'm curious about others thoughts.
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HoeBag · 51-55, F
People want the "Hallmark" version of a relationship or other things. The problem is that with most things in life, there is about 20% enjoyment and 80% is dealing with bull. It just isn't worth trying to do or have much.

A lot of people have expectations and rules and make each other miserable

That tends to happen once the word "relationship" is attached.

I don't know, I just don't want it anymore.

I hear that. My last relationship ended on a bad enough note that I barely think of wanting to be with anyone. I mean people can come into our lives, FUBAR it, and just walk out like nothing happened. That could have happened in my last one, but I kept thinking, "What if...?" and yeah, things would have hit the fan.

You just have to think - would you really want to bring someone into your life who would be romantic at first, but then proceed to f*ck up everything in your life, then just move on?

Everyone SEEMS like Mr. or Ms. Perfect at first but that soon fades and we get to meet the real version of them, and it ain't gonna be nice.

Like a line I heard in a movie - "I am not risking everything over a piece of 4ss!"
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@HoeBag Exactly with you.

Especially about everyone being on their best behavior at first.

Hopefully we can get back to friends first and knowing each other more time before we get closer. Everything got so fast and instant and it felt like we were running through each other so fast and meeting people who didn't want to let us go until they found something better.

Oof it's too much for me.
HoeBag · 51-55, F
@ScreamingFox I imagine even for those in our age group looking for someone, it has to be tough because after a certain point in life, most of us have made a wreck of our lives. We all have our problems and aren't wanting to deal with someone else's.
akindheart · 70-79, F
you echoed my thoughts perfectly. i always give 100% in my relationships yet there will always be someone more exciting, prettier, sexier, or smarter. I always wondered after all these years why i am still single. i came close to getting married many times and something always happened. God removed them out of my life. I came to the conclusion to make my own life the best it can be. i live a good life. Would it be nicer to share it? maybe. but i know what i have and i dont' want to blow it away for someone who might not stay
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@akindheart Everything became online and instant, we were meeting people we didn't really know. Even people we know can turn out not so good after the new wears off. It can be too much too fast these days perhaps.

I agree, just make your life the best you can. It's much less stressful and more balanced.

I do think sharing would be nice. I've come to that conclusion a lot, but I've had to find other conclusions that are safer and balanced.
SpectralMourning · 41-45, M
It’s all a roulette. I sympathize with those that have been through such traumatic experiences that they feel their safest bet is just avoidance. I empathize with those expect more. The odds seem to always be stacked against it. People have to grow together if they’re going to be together. And the work it takes is exhausting even for the most “put together” person. Just my own ramble.
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@SpectralMourning it would be quite an adventure to grow with someone, but I agree we are tired. I know I am. And I can't expect anyone to love me when I'm tired. It all seems transactional. I don't know, just too complicated for me.
hippyjoe1955 · 70-79, M
As someone whose parents never divorced and whose siblings never divorced and who has been married to the same wonderful woman for 47 years I think that marriage is a wonderful state to be in. I find that too many couples never form the idea of US. It is what the husband wants or more often what the wife wants that prevents the relationship from developing as it should. The simple cohesion of both working toward the goal of oneness.
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@hippyjoe1955 I love the thought of that. Cheers to your family for making it work. I think there are some values that have been lost, but it is different for a lot of us.
robertsnj · 56-60, M
I hope you and the others feel good getting stuff off your chest.

Not that my opinion matters, but I think a lot of people mistake love for lust and or infatuation.

Having long terms goals, on lifesytle, aligned outlook on life and financial goals, while sounding sterile is a better launch board to someone that would be good to be with long term and or marry.

i think a huge percentage of the single population, of both genders, are in a place where a relationship does not makes sense. It requires more of them than they are able to give at their present time.
Hoodski · 36-40, M
I would absolutely love to be married for the rest of my life but I don’t think that is in the cards for me. As far as love I don’t know that I believe in it the way I once did. A friend with benefits sounds like a way better option
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@Hoodski I really don't know anymore...
Hoodski · 36-40, M
@ScreamingFox on which part lol
LavidaRaq · F
I’m enjoying my life on my terms now. I once believed in the fairy tale, but it’s harder and harder to believe. Real is rare.
Kiesel · 56-60, M
@LavidaRaq so relatable Lavida….
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@LavidaRaq Real is rare and worth waiting for even if it never happens
LavidaRaq · F
@ScreamingFox most definitely
FreeorLonely · 51-55, F
Very relatable 🤗
If we spent as much time pursuing and escaping into ourselves as we do into others, this world would be a very different place.
ScreamingFox · 41-45, F
@deathfairy I hear you. Other people can really mess you up.
badminton · 61-69, MVIP
"The course of true love never did run smooth."

Shakespeare

 
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